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No one said we are tolerant. A lot of tolerance = degeneracy. We have principals that we follow. Pushing and promoting children to potentially ruin their life with castration chemicals isn't in our principals.
The fact that 40% of troons commit suicide and becoming a troon is pushed to children is a really really fucked up moral stance.
As a teen I can tell you that I'm already questioning too many things in my life. My gender being different isn't one of them.
If you don't want to us laugh at troons don't push your agenda in our faces. If someone wants to cut his balls off as a grown up he is free to do it. But not a kid that on the first day wants to be astronaut, the other day he wants to be super man and on the third day he want to be a pilot
Holy shit, I don’t even have the time to tell you how incredibly wrong you are. I used to be like you, then I found a girl and felt acceptance and tolerance from the people around me. You’ll reach that point and then you’ll question why you were ever the way you are.
And if you don’t, well I guess suicide seems like the fair option, seeing your happiness at others’ suffering.
When you have time I'll be happy to argue with you and hear your arguments.
You can’t argue about morals, that requires empathy, understanding why someone might be feeling a certain way. Because only then you might understand that making fun of suicide is horrible.
I'm not making fun of suicide. I'm making fun of people who think that pushing suicide is ok.
Anyways. Running from argument means that you're loosing
Nobody has ever pushed suicide, the only people who push suicide are intolerant cunts like you.
Running from the argument means that I can see that you’re an irredeemable psychopath and I have more pressing matters to attend to in my life. You don’t fit into the busy schedule and I know you’ll painfully figure out how wrong you were.
If someone is pushing a kid to do an act that has 40% of the kid ending with a rope around his head and I am the one who is opposing it then I don't see how I am promoting suicide
I don't even understand what you're trying to say here, first of all no one is pushing kids to go kill themselves except the people who make fun of those who are different and also make fun of people who do kill themselves. Though like @I_[email protected] said it takes empathy to see that, which you clearly lack.
I am trying to say that there is a certain group of people (the part of the left that promotes trans sexuality and those books with degeneracy in them) who pushes an act (becoming trans and ingesting castration chemicals) which has a big chance (40%) to result with suicide to kids.
So when you are promoting an act (changing genders or ingesting castration chemicals) that might lead to suicide later in the life to kids, there are people who think that this is acceptable.
We make fun of those people.
First off, 40 is bullshit. There’s a dozen sources disproving your bullshit number. The only reason trans people commit suicide is because of cunts like you and every other right winger literally telling them they’re not allowed to exist as they please.
Not only that, but those “acts” you’re speaking of aren’t given to kids. Ooh you’re so gullible
Let me see those sources. And please don't show me or give me "Trust me bro sources".
https://studylib.net/doc/13499004/suicide-attempts-among-transgender-and-gender-non-conform...
Read it, your 40% number is about kids who already have gender dysphoria en haven’t received ANY gender conforming care. Ie. Not being accepted by cunts like you. When looking at gender conforming care and acceptance, suicide rate drops to normal levels.
Forgot to mention that your source also proves the ≈40% number
It proves that you cause it.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32345113/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/dec/16/us-trans-non-binary-youth-suicide-mental-health
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5178031/
https://www.hrc.org/news/new-study-reveals-shocking-rates-of-attempted-suicide-among-trans-adolescen
https://www.gendergp.com/what-is-the-transgender-suicide-rate/
So, basically, they all prove it’s you who causes it and it’s gender affirming care that solves it. Awesome job!
If you are not sure what your gender is and need gender affirming care then why the fuck did you changed your gender? Still we would not get 40% suicide rate if you don't change your gender in the first place. Stop promoting gender change to those who don't need it and you'll see how fast the suicide rate will fall
You make no sense, if you’re unhappy in your gender, then change your fucking gender. You make absolutely no sense.
If you're grownup and unhappy with your gender then change it. If you are a teen who is unhappy for different thing every day then don't.
40% of transgender were happy with their old gender and are unhappy with their new gender. They just had something else happening in their lives that they didn't realised was happening and needed help for that.
If you’re a teen and you know why you’re unhappy, then make changes.
Your second statement is pure and utter bullshit.
I've been watching this battle and I just wanna say that I WAS one of those teens that was unhappy with my gender for about a year, was ready to socially transition and everything. It wasint until my dad sat me down and we had a long talk about what was going on in my life that I realized I was stressed about all the surgery I was having and saw being trans as an escape. I was 13 at the time and didnt know any better. I STILL don't know any better and I'm 19, still rely on my parents for most of my hard choices because I'm still young, I don't know everything and sure as heck didnt back then. That's why we say no to trans youth. Not because we want them dead, but because they are still kids that think they know everything but don't. When they turn 18 and want to be trans I say go for it but if you're young I say wait, learn more about life then make your choice.
So, sounds like everyone is doing quite well. Kids are getting reversible treatment to help them feel better. ITS ALL FOR THE KIDS THO! Funny dog whistle when you want to take rights away for trans adults.
Who said I wanted that? Also, such a.....retarded name. Adults can do what ever the fuck they want, really don't care.
lol, how pathetic must your life be that you give a shit about someone’s lemmy name 🥲
Trust me, as a teen you don't know why you are unhappy.
As far as my 2nd statemen goes: Why is it bullshit?
Trust me, as a teen, you know. With enough education. And look at the most educated nations, seems like they’ve got a good grip of trans rights.
Mention some of those countries and then show me statistics if transgendarism is pushed as much as it is pushed in the US
Gender Conforming care or Enablement? I like heroin. I guess my drug dealer was just providing Addict Conforming care. :D I jest.. don't twist up your panties.
You’re a pathetic waste of oxygen
is that all you've got?
laughs in Canadian
umm.. what's his name. Trudeau?
And no sources, again! I thought you guys were not retarded or something
Why would anyone need to present sources for uncontested facts?
The MSM has reported on a number of events out of Canada.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/paralympian-trying-to-get-wheelchair-ramp-says-veterans-affairs-employee-offered-her-assisted-dying-1.6179325
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/woman-with-chemical-sensitivities-chose-medically-assisted-death-after-failed-bid-to-get-better-housing-1.5860579
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/woman-with-disabilities-nears-medically-assisted-death-after-futile-bid-for-affordable-housing-1.5882202
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-is-canada-euthanising-the-poor-/
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2023/06/canada-legalized-medical-assisted-suicide-euthanasia-death-maid/673790/
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/vancouver-hospital-canada-assisted-suicide-maid-b2390914.html
its a mixture of 0 to full downs.
Indeed it does, it is unfortunate that people in the world can be so cruel but that's all the more reason we should stick up for others.
That argument can be used here, too much tolerance of what could be considered violent or abusive behavior indeed does lead to degeneracy, it leads to more people being violent or abusive in that way. Making fun of people who kill themselves very much falls under that umbrella.
Yeah, that's why HRT and Surgery isn't used on minors, in some cases they'll administer blockers which delay natural changes without causing permanent damage, they can either go through it naturally when they're older or transition then. If they are forced to go through it naturally when they are younger though they'll have a harder time doing it when they're older, which is why we use blockers, to give them time.
All your arguments seem to be based on the idea of children transitioning which essentially never happens until people come of age (unless they do it DIY, which is very dangerous and certainly not endorsed).
This is 100% false. Those "blockers" do cause permanent damage, for example making it highly unlikely they will ever be able to have kids.
This is what has people so upset about the transition movement, they are making false promises to kids that cause permanent damage before kids a mentally mature enough to weigh the pros and cons.
Remember informed consent requires accurate information.
Except when those blocker are being used by law enforcement to chemically castrate sexual predators.
My arguments are based on the idea that some people are promoting books with sexual acts in them and chemical castration to kids and minors
I wouldn't even bother with them, they're clearly kissing up to those groomers, they're not going to listen to any logic. They even created two groomer communities trying to push their dumbass woke ideology here, trying to convince kids that it's possible to be something other than a man or woman, or even trying to say that people can have no gender... somehow (how the hell is that even possible? That makes no fucking sense whatsoever)