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Trying to de-google and looking for an alternative to Gmail.

Don't mind if it's a paid service if it's robust.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Last I checked, the encryption in Proton Mail means you have to use their app, no third party apps allowed. Is that still true?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Yes, that's still true. If you want to be able to use a third-party mail app, I would look at Fastmail or Mailbox.org. They don't have free plans though.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Phone app? Yes you have to use their own app. On a computer besides the browser version you can use Thunderbird and other applications if you download ProtonBridge.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

To clarify, this is a paid feature and not included with the free tier

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Is that GitHub issue where the bridge just starts deleting emails still open? I am pretty sure it was open for over a year.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yup, and it’s kind if a pain since their mobile apps aren’t great. I’ve been using them for many years, and lately have been considering jumping ship.

Email encryption isn’t something I actually care about. If I wanted to send someone a super private message, I probably wouldn’t use email anyways since it’s just clunky, and it’s unlikely the other person is using proton mail too (which means the message wouldn’t be encrypted anyways). All I really want is to not have my email provider be scanning my messages to profit from my data.

But the effort to switch to something else is making me stay…

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't use encrypted emails only to communicate privately. If they are not encrypted, your e-mail provider will probably scan them, whether it is for profit or under request from the NSA. That's what Snowden uncovered.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a good point, but also the more I think about it the more I realize it's futile. Google is 100% going to scan the messages I send to gmail users, and match it to me somehow.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

With Tutanota the Gmail user only gets a link (optionally password protected). Google can’t scan the actual content of the mail.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Same with Proton if you enable encryption for emails to non-proton addresses

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I've had zero issues with the mobile app for mail.