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  • no grip of power, the Cabinet Office a dumpster fire and no No10 plan to fix it, No10 given the run-around by Whitehall as soon as the PM’s office switches from one disaster to the next

  • no governing plan for the NHS, crime, the war, productivity growth, R&D or anything else — just nightmarish Treasury budget/Spending Review processes that vandalise long-term building and entrench the dangerous rot of critical national capabilities

  • no message

  • no serious polling, communication or political machine (just incoherent jabbering to the media per the Tory model of ‘communication’ for decades)

  • no political strategy worth spit (current approach is indistinguishable from ‘annoy everyone’)

  • a humiliatingly awful level of argument from No10 on every major issue (reduced to defending idiot MPs telling people to ‘fuck off’ out of frustration that their own policy, which officials and their own spads told them couldn’t work, has turned into the predicted fiasco)

  • political disintegration

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Posting this here “as is”; I’m generally centre / centre-left but read from all sorts of sources.

Thoughts?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a surprisingly interesting read actually. Funny to see how much of it is just a tactical game for power - though he does mention some "correct" points, you get the feeling it's a case of "we must do these things to gain and maintain power" rather than "we must do these things to improve the lives of the people".

Regarding his plan for a "new Tory alternative", whilst we still have a "First past the post" system, I'm fully supportive of anything that helps split up the Tory vote.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yes that move from “helping people” to “power” all seems a bit mercenary; unfortunately I think that’s what politics has descended into.