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Not like the democratic party routinely rigs elections against local lefty populists right? Sometimes even supporting or propping up an insane right wing candidate instead.
No they don’t rig elections. People come out to vote and the winner wins. The party has no obligation to support or promote every candidate. If you get people to vote for you more than your opponent, you will win. AOC did it.
And you don't think they are now more alert to that kind of thing happening?
Why does it matter? Candidates can’t be coddled in the primaries. The general is going to be dirty, you gotta play the game.
Why does it matter that the game is rigged against people wanting to improve our country by implementing progressive/socialist-adjacent policy?
Think about it just a bit and you'd understand why it matters lmfao
The people in power are the ones with money, and they have a vested interest in keeping that power and money to continue growing.
The primaries aren’t rigged. If you convince enough people to vote for you, you win. Others have that very same right ti convince them not to vote for you.
You can say it’s not fair, but you cannot say it’s rigged. It’s false.
When you control the MSM and have all the money in the world at your disposal to sink the other candidate with deceit, it's almost as good as rigging it.
Sure it's not literally rigged where people's votes don't matter but it's literally right up to the line.
That’s what people said about Hillary in 2008 and I don’t remember her winning the Primary.
Lol because enough people hated her enough to not vote for her or to (bleh) vote for Trump, the only one using populist rhetoric (even though we knew he was full of shit)
2008
What about 2008?
She ran against Obama in 2008, and despite being the media and party favorite, lost to Obama who received more votes.
Obama had a more populist message and resonated more with the moment.
She wasn't even close to as much of the media favorite as she was in 2016 (though you're right, she was initially the annointed one)
Obama didn't end up living up to his message though, and definitely fell in line with the corporate dem class.
Populists never live up to their message because their message is mostly bullshit. Either outright lies or overly pie-in-the-sky idealist that can never really happen.
Wrong, they never live up to their message in America because of greed and legislative capture. (Depending on the person)