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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (106 children)

How do you know that? People in China go hungry all the time. Official poverty rates might've been reduced significantly, but the poverty line in China is much less livable than the poverty line in America. If you make $2.31 a day in China, you're not technically in poverty!

Not to mention similar homelessness rates to America

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (82 children)

you didn't say anything about the rates of hunger in China. Those people that are in poverty still don't have to worry about where their next meal is coming from

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (81 children)
[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

2.5% is the hunger rate of China according to your source. So I decided to look up the US and see how it compares. https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/ag-and-food-statistics-charting-the-essentials/food-security-and-nutrition-assistance/

10% or in other words china is currently 4x better at feeding the hungry than the US is. 10% of 300+million is also around 30+million, so a comparable number but just out of an incomparably smaller population.

So you, following the advice of people who cannot get hunger below 10%, in a country with enough food waste to solve the problem, think that people on the other side of the world, whose hunger problem is only a quarter of your neighbors, should fix their hunger by growing LESS FOOD in favor of cash crops? Is that correct?

If I'm misrepresenting you please let me know

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

So I decided to look up the US and see how it compares.

Whataboutism.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That isnt whataboutism, it is a comparison.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

An unnecessary comparison. I'm talking about 1 in 40 Chinese people facing hunger, this has absolutely nothing to do with America.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It does because you're claiming that the system that America is the best example of: letting the free market run food security, is superior to what China is doing. This is an incorrect statement as proven by statistics.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It does because you’re claiming that the system that America is the best example of: letting the free market run food security

Putting words in my mouth.

Also you used a different metric from the metric I used. China and America have the exact same (2.5%) hunger rate using the same source. Typical Hexbear lying.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why are yall supporting the CCP forcing farmers to do something against their will?

What is this, if not support for a more laissez faire approach?

China and America have the exact same (2.5%) hunger rate using the same source.

What is (33 million divided by 330 million) multiplied by 100?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're using a different source than I used. Look at the US hunger rate under the same definition as the China hunger rate. Different sources have looser ways of defining hunger.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

The united states government has a looser way of defining hunger in their own country than a shady investment website that doesnt even have https? Didn't they teach you how to choose reliable sources of information in highschool?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Putting words in my mouth.

You're being facetious: How do you expect underpaid, overworked farmers to turn a profit and provide for their families if you're making them grow a bunch of dirt cheap rice?

There is no other way to interpret this comment other than demanding the farmer(s) sell the product of their choice at the market, favoring the individual over the collective here.

China and America have the exact same (2.5%) hunger rate using the same source.

Because the PRC is still a developing country, and their hunter rate was much worse in the past, that means (pretending your lies and misdirection are real) they are improving to close the gap and ensure food security.

Again, all of your posts boil down to:

wojak-nooo : NOOO YOU HAVE TO HATE CHINA!! SEESEEPEE BOTS NOOOO!! STOP GIVING ME COUNTERARGUMENTS!! NOOO!! HATE CHINA WITH ME!! NO!!!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is no other way to interpret this comment other than demanding the farmer(s) sell the product of their choice at the market, favoring the individual over the collective here.

The government could make them grow green rice but give them extra money to make up for it. Farmers deserve fair pay. Of course, the millionaires and billionaires of the CCP wouldn't want that.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Of course, the millionaires and billionaires of the CCP wouldn't want that.

Source?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

No, like the implication that the government wont subsidizing or give benefits to the farmers who grow green rice. Because it sounds made up tbh

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

That is the dumbest fucking thing I’ve heard in my life.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

Take the beam out of your own eye friend.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

Nah it's pointing out how the approach you suggest (let the free market decide what's profitable to grow for food security) is inferior to what China is doing.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

Ok but why are you so angry about people so far away from you when your neighbors are suffering more (at the hands of the people telling us what it's like 'over there's)

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