this post was submitted on 15 Aug 2023
271 points (64.6% liked)

Unpopular Opinion

6344 readers
142 users here now

Welcome to the Unpopular Opinion community!


How voting works:

Vote the opposite of the norm.


If you agree that the opinion is unpopular give it an arrow up. If it's something that's widely accepted, give it an arrow down.



Guidelines:

Tag your post, if possible (not required)


  • If your post is a "General" unpopular opinion, start the subject with [GENERAL].
  • If it is a Lemmy-specific unpopular opinion, start it with [LEMMY].


Rules:

1. NO POLITICS


Politics is everywhere. Let's make this about [general] and [lemmy] - specific topics, and keep politics out of it.


2. Be civil.


Disagreements happen, but that doesn’t provide the right to personally attack others. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Please also refrain from gatekeeping others' opinions.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Shitposts and memes are allowed but...


Only until they prove to be a problem. They can and will be removed at moderator discretion.


5. No trolling.


This shouldn't need an explanation. If your post or comment is made just to get a rise with no real value, it will be removed. You do this too often, you will get a vacation to touch grass, away from this community for 1 or more days. Repeat offenses will result in a perma-ban.



Instance-wide rules always apply. https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Humans who run instances are real people who have jobs and mortgages and kids. I also like having piracy communities around to balance the greedy ass corporations trying to control media and copyright…I’m glad to know they are there if I need them or feel like screwing around with it. I just wonder if the people ranting all indignantly acting like instances are competing for their usership would feel the same if the most active instance was on a server physically sitting in their basement, or paid for by money tied to them in the real world. Yes it seems pretty unlikely that you’re ever going to run into issues with law enforcement, copyright claims, lawsuits…but how much would you risk for a fucking hobby you do for free? Would you risk your house? Your job? I would not. Grow up. No one cares what instance you use.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Glad we have that tool 👍 but it's not a full migration to my knowledge. I don't think your post history migrates with you, for example. Just one ramification of that is if someone replies to an old post of yours, you won't know on your new instance.

Also folks that have established communities on an instance (shameless plug for [email protected]) can't uproot and move it to another instance (yet).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Glad we have that tool 👍 but it’s not a full migration to my knowledge. I don’t think your post history migrates with you, for example. Just one ramification of that is if someone replies to an old post of yours, you won’t know on your new instance.

Indeed, but I'm not sure even Mastodon offers that feature. I'm in that case quite often as I have a lot of alts. It's okay for now, I don't usually change accounts that often, and when I do, I have a one-week timeframe when I change the previous account as well.

The community moving is another issue, but for that one to happen would be really though. Quite easy to abuse, because attackers could just create fake communities with thousands of GBs of pictures and just dump those on targeted instances. It's easier to monitor normal content creation, and even limit the creation of communities as some instances already do.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Indeed, but I’m not sure even Mastodon offers that feature

Firefish does let you import your Mastodon GDPR export, so it can be done. However the problem Lemmy will need to solve if it wants to offer this functionality is that all those posts are bound to new accounts, so you'll either have duplicate posts or they won't be shown.

A "true" post migration feature that replaces the owner of an existing post (as opposed to making backdated posts) would likely need an ActivityPub extension that the entire ecosystem an agree to, and of course that needs to consider proper authorization so a malicious instance can't take over an account with a malicious migration request.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hmm good points. Maybe moving communities should require admin approval from the instance you're moving to?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Could be, but then the issue is that you would need to have a look at what is inside that community.

Who is going to ensure that GBs of text, comments and links are all legal and safe content? We are talking about piracy here, but there could be CP or other nasty stuff.

It's quite a large risk to blindly trust someone to dump such a large amount of content on your instance.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Also folks that have established communities on an instance (shameless plug for [email protected]) can’t uproot and move it to another instance (yet).

You can moderate cross-instance as far as I'm aware. I agree that communities should be able to move as well, but from what I've seen from previous attempts by other communities .world admins will just find new mods and reopen the existing community.