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interesting article for consideration from Polygon writer Kazuma Hashimoto. here's the opening:

In February, Final Fantasy 16 producer Naoki Yoshida sat down in an interview with YouTuber SkillUp as part of a tour to promote the next installment in the Final Fantasy series. During the interview, Yoshida expressed his distaste for a term that had effectively become its own subgenre of video game, though not by choice. "For us as Japanese developers, the first time we heard it, it was like a discriminatory term, as though we were being made fun of for creating these games, and so for some developers, the term can be something that will maybe trigger bad feelings because of what it was in the past," he said. He stated that the first time both he and his contemporaries heard the term, they felt as though it was discriminatory, and that there was a long period of time when it was being used negatively against Japanese-developed games. That term? "JRPG."

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (18 children)

>calling zelda an action-rpg
>calling zelda a jrpg

this is worse than the "a hotdog is a sandwich" thing.

[–] Sami 8 points 1 year ago (17 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If everything is a member of a group, then the group doesn't exist. Categories, genres, any language used to define a group is just a useful tool to talk about and around subjects. Reductionism of categories is pointless. Doom-clone used to be a category, and same with Rogue. Now FPS, and rogue-lite genres exist.

[–] Sami 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm just being reductive for the sake of emphasizing how non-descriptive the term RPG is especially when tons of games have "RPG elements" (ie. stats/level progression).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah no worries, I personally think RPG is an overly used term and perhaps the genre definition is too broad. Anything with stats, is a pretty low bar to meet being an RPG.

How everyone defines these is wobbly though, I feel a JRPG must have some kind of party system, based on all the classic JRPG have parties. Where as I feel an RPG is a game where player power is tied non-exclusively to player skill. Such as Picross is not an RPG as 100% of player power, is tied to player skill. So then I feel Souls games are an RPG, but not a JRPG because you only play as yourself. I think the J in JRPG is just an old carryover, and maybe we should call them Party RPGs, but that's pretty easily confused with Party games, which is totally unrelated.

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