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When people are way too smug about their wrong answer.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Of course it wasn't about slavery, it was about taxes!

Abraham Lincoln, alone, ordered the invasion of the States soley to collect an average 40% federal sales tax (200% on plows and stoves used by pioneer farmers) to fatten the wallets of his Wall Street owners, who elected him with only 39% of the popular vote.

Abraham Lincoln declared his War was over taxes ONLY and not slavery, at all.

https://confederateheritage.org/BFMP-Lockhart.html

Saw that monument on a road trip once.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This has got me fucked up, so that I'm not sure what I even know anymore. Was Wall Street even a concept when Lincoln was alive?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I'd never really thought about it, but 1792, Wall Street essentially came into being. So yeah.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If it fucked you up seeing a random pic on the internet, just imagine you're driving down the highway and see this ugly monstrosity with a confederate flag waving proudly in the proverbial breeze. You see more confederate flags around here than American. I'm moving soon.

Regarding your question, idk about wall street and I'm curious how old the memorial even is. It looks fairly new-ish and reeks of modern revisionist history. Can't really find many details and further research is making me nauseous so you're welcome to investigate.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah we got that thanks! I think you just got whooshed.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Any time any "alternative facts" are presented against things like the cause of the Civil War or the holocaust, even 100% sarcastically, it's important to follow them up with what actually happened. Otherwise you end up with a The_Donald situation, where idiots who can't tell the difference between parody and reality end up in positions where they can legitimately rewrite history to fit their own narrative.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought it was clear in the context of hundreds of other posts debunking it, but keep fighting the good fight I guess.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

That's gotta be the laziest way of passing the buck ever.