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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

To be fair, most people aren't driving across the US on an even yearly basis, if ever in their lives.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

400 miles doesn't get you halfway across a single state in the western US.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I think you underestimate how many people never leave their home city

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But it definitely gets you to the next fast charger to get an 80 percent charge in 10 minutes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's only relevant if you have a mythical car that can charge to 80 in 10 minutes. My car does it in about 90, the Solterra I almost bought has something like a 60 minute 10-80% charge time, and the fastest charging car on the market right now is the EV6 which is (IIRC) still 18 minutes to 80%.

Nevermind that the estimated 350 mile range in an ICE car is pretty spot on, where as a 250 mile range in an EV is best case scenario.

I own an EV, I think EVs are the future, but they're not there quite yet. Not completely, and not in a way that can compete with a RAV-4, CR-V, or Forester in terms of miles traveled and minutes spent filling up. And often, locations where you want to stop, aren't the same locations that have a fast charger.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You're right, the ten minute thing is a goal not a reality right now. But according to multiple sources 10-80 percent charging times range from 20-75 minutes. Unless you're on some kind of mad dash across the country that is short enough for road trips. For reference that's 225 miles before lunch; and 200 miles before and after dinner. At highway speeds of 70mph you're looking at 2 hours and 48 minutes between breaks. If you slow down to the old 55 mph recommendation for conserving energy then it's 3 hours and 40 minutes. Which neatly divides for two drivers avoiding highway hypnosis. (2 hour max shift)

Now I admit that this is theoretical, and more planning than most people do for road trips these days. But it is very doable to schedule meals during charging.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

EV makers are doing what they did for mpg with gas cars: put out numbers for "ideal" charge times and range that are way off of reality.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

To my knowledge the only one that's been caught straight up lying is Tesla.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Yup, I'm OK with a Ranchero EV with a 150 mile range.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just city to city is typically at least 150mi one way. Maybe on the southern coasts, if I was really a homebody, could I get away with something under 150mi range.

There's no way anyone in Texas is going anywhere in a standard range EV for example.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I drove from Minnesota to Kansas in an EV. Wasn't too bad, just a few stops to charge. I needed to eat and go for a walk, anyways