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Following the news that "Beeper becomes first RCS chat app for iPhones, introducing support for Google Messages with RCS" what are your thoughts on the app and on the RCS forced by Google? Is it worth a try? Or should I stick to Matrix and Signal?

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doesn't look like it's FOSS, so I'm not even going to bother trying it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The clients are closed source, but they use Matrix bridges to connect to various messaging services, and those are in fact open sourced.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry, just want to make sure others read this properly. I think you meant

The clients aren't ~~closed~~ open source.

They are closed source forks of Element's desktop/mobile/web apps.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Woops, yes indeed, I just corrected my comment!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So why not just use a Matrix client?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Because you'd need to do all the bridges for other clients yourself. There was a post somehwere here on how to do that a few days ago ... and it looked complicated.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

There are quite a few public servers that have bridges implemented. Sadly the official server list does not say which of them has bridges but just check the websites of some and pick one you like.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So basically, Beeper just hosts a bunch of Matrix bridges and has an app for their server? Can you use their service with another Matrix client?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

importantly though Beeper also built a lot of the bridges and maintain a lot more as FOSS

unsure about using a FOSS client with their service, but you can definitely use a FOSS client with their bridges that you host yourself and it’s functionally very similar AFAIK

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it's so weird then to make the app closed source. I would guess that a lot of potential users would care about this and are unhappy with that …

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

i think it makes sense... that’s the pattern with a lot of FOSS but for-profit: make the hard (but generic) functionality FOSS and then make your “skin” that ties it all together, thing that makes it pretty, the differentiator closed and sell that