this post was submitted on 12 Jun 2023
129 points (89.6% liked)

Selfhosted

40394 readers
382 users here now

A place to share alternatives to popular online services that can be self-hosted without giving up privacy or locking you into a service you don't control.

Rules:

  1. Be civil: we're here to support and learn from one another. Insults won't be tolerated. Flame wars are frowned upon.

  2. No spam posting.

  3. Posts have to be centered around self-hosting. There are other communities for discussing hardware or home computing. If it's not obvious why your post topic revolves around selfhosting, please include details to make it clear.

  4. Don't duplicate the full text of your blog or github here. Just post the link for folks to click.

  5. Submission headline should match the article title (don’t cherry-pick information from the title to fit your agenda).

  6. No trolling.

Resources:

Any issues on the community? Report it using the report flag.

Questions? DM the mods!

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Correct me if I'm wrong. I read ActivityPub standards and dug a little into lemmy sources to understand how federation works. And I'm a bit disappointed. Every server just has a cache and the ability to fetch something from another known server. So if you start your own instance, there is no profit for the whole network until you have a significant piece of auditory (e.g. private instances or servers with no users). Are there any "balancers" to utilize these empty instances? Should we promote (or create in the first place) a way how to passively help lemmy with such fast growth?

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I've created my own instance in order to not create more load on others and it took a minute to realise I needed to populate it myself, would be nice to have a default view aggregating popular posts etc. across instances. But maybe I'm just asking for too much hehe

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's an interesting idea. Maybe you could even choose the "default subs" for your instance from across lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

That would be awesome I think! I am toying with the idea of building a proper instance, put my devops skills to use, but at the same time, few features missing!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Seems to me that this is the ONLY way that a user (let's call them creators for the sake of this convo) can guarantee that their efforts are always both protected AND remain available as the creator sees fit.

If I start my own lemmy server and I'm the ONLY user, it would stand to reason that if I deprecated that server that all of my posts EVERYWHERE would instantly cease to exist (with exception of quoted posts in other's comments). That gives me 100% of control over MY specific content contribution to this platform. So, if in the future lemmy goes the way of reddit, it's as simple as us staging a walk-out just like we did to reddit, except NOTHING would show up on reddit anymore.

Am I missing something here? For true creators, spinning up a cheap server to host is acceptable if not expected if you want any type of control after the "Post" button is pressed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

If I have understood how lemmy works, the post and comment would be on the instance hosting the community. Your server would just post it to the community's server on your behalf.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This seems like a great solution, does it work this way? I admit I've not delved too much into how federation works, but I assumed that when content gets pulled from one instance to another it gets replicated to that other instance, so deletion becomes problematic.

In any case, being in complete control of one own's online presence seems like a great way forward.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I did the exact same thing. Ended up looking up the more popular communities on the bigger instances and searched for them on mine to index them.

I wish there was an easier way, but for now there isn't.