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The co-founder of failed cryptocurrency exchange FTX pleaded not guilty to a seven count indictment charging him with wire fraud, securities fraud and money laundering.

An attorney for FTX co-founder Sam Bankman-Fried said in federal court Tuesday his client has to subsist on bread, water and peanut butter because the jail he's in isn't accommodating his vegan diet.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm all for improving conditions in the prison system. However, with how bad we know it is, expecting a vegan diet is a bit laughable. I'm surprised they offer vegetarian options at all.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (91 children)

I disagree. It's a moral issue. What if someone was wrongly convicted? Force them to go against their moral system? I personally couldn't bear to eat the flesh of an animal. I get this dudes a criminal but like, I don't think the issue itself is laughable.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Even if they weren't wrongly convicted. Murderer happens to follow any one of the religions that forbid pork? What's feeding them bacon going to accomplish, exactly? It's purely out of spite when the object is supposed to be to discourage reoffending. Treating people humanely makes them act human. Call them a dog and they'll act like a dog.

Even the more progressive can be like this. People have weird ideas about human worth being something measurable and thus rescindable.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There was nothing to disagree with. I didn't say I don't think they shouldn't supply vegan. I just know what the US prison system is like and wouldn't expect them to. It's fucking criminal gladiator college. There are some prisons that barely feed the inmates and make them need money for commissary food to not be hungry constantly.

I'm sure where SBF is being kept is a white collar low security place where they treat them better. They're still treated like caged dogs though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Gotcha, i just thought the laughable part meant like 'we shouldn't care'. Yeah the prison system sucks

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

...expecting a vegan diet is a bit laughable. I'm surprised they offer vegetarian options at all.

"Surprised" is the wrong word, but this thread has me wondering why all prison food isn't vegan. Never mind respecting people's religious/ethical/whatever preferences; why are we wasting meat on folks who don't deserve it? Just making everything vegan would be (a) the simplest "lowest common denominator" of dietary restrictions, and more importantly (b) the cheapest/most environmentally sustainable option (disregarding subsidies to the meat/dairy industry).

(On the other hand, this is half rhetorical because I'm also remembering about a documentary I watched about Alcatraz, which mentioned that the food was intentionally good in part to stave off prison riots.)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Seriously another issue where every country on earth has the solution and America just doesn't want to accept the answer.

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