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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.basedcount.com/post/114721

My humble takes on the most popular Lemmy instances, or "how to piss off the whole Fediverse with a single meme".

Here are the links to each one of the mentioned instances:

Far Left Centre Left Centre Right Far Right
Lemmygrad Exploding Heads
Hexbear Lemmy.ml Lemmy.world
Beehaw Pricefield Lemmy Based Count sh.itjust.works
Blåhaj Lemmy Divisions by zero Lemmy NSFW Hack Liberty
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The problem with large blocking lists is that they can't be easily audited. How do you know if there's any legit website amongst 400 links?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree. I think relying too heavily on blocklists can be a detriment to the growth and decentralization of the Fediverse. Who even decides what ends up on them? Maybe you pass through the crossair of whoever handles that while they're having a bad day and boom, you're barred out of 2/3 of all the content.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't mind big blocklists honestly, the problem with auditing is purely on a UX side - if we would have a way to sort/filter isntances by software and have some kind of grouping ("all of these instances are on a list of badies"), it wouldn't be such a problem.

What's really a problem is whitelisting. It's proactively punishing those who use small/personal instances, and not federating is much easier than defederating, so it'll more probably be abused by admins.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What’s really a problem is whitelisting.

Agreed. Fortunately very few instances rely on that. The only decently big one is hexbear.net, the second biggest both of our instances are barred from has 41 active users and all the others have only a single digit of active users. Not that big of a loss.

Data for your instance: https://defed.xyz/check/eviltoast.org

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can imagine whitelisting to become more popular as Lemmy user base grows and communities become more suitable for lurkers and non-techies who know nothing about federation.

Data for your instance: https://defed.xyz/check/eviltoast.org

It's such a contrast seeing blank blocklist after using Beehaw and blahaj honestly. Small instances are so much better tbh. And this tool is great, thanks! I hope we'll figure out how to get a list of blocked communities somehow. This lack of transparency is so annoying.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

For real. Small instances ftw. Glad you enjoy my tool. Investigating blocked communities might be a feature for a future upgrade, thanks for the idea.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's also a problem with how much information Lemmy makes available. In most of the fediverse the block list includes a reason field

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, it would also be great if a user could easily sort blocked communities by software, to stop seeing all the mastodon and pleroma instances.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I like the idea of filters and sorting. Also I liked the old layout better where there was a vertical split with federated instances on the left and defederated instances on the right