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In China, It’s Already Cheaper to Buy EVs Than Gasoline Cars::undefined

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The timeline doesn't add up. Chinese EV makers, including BYD, were building crazy momentum long before Musk set up shop in Shanghai (which was in 2018). It's only come to the attention of the outside world in the last couple of years when their EVs started to get exported at scale, but before they've been brewing this industry for a long time. BYD shipped its first compact EV domestically in 2009.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yes, because there's no way 5 years is enough time to steal technology and manufacturing techniques and distribute them throughout an industry with a web of government industrial spies. They never do this type of thing so it would take 20 years. I'm sure BYD is making cars exactly like they were 5 years ago. Technology moves so slowly.

Oh, a quick search shows of BYD cars shows me their cars up until around that time looked like a cheap kia from the early 2000s and now the new models look weirdly like a Tesla. I'm sure that's complete coincidence though. China with it's super strict IP laws and parents should never steal anything.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

China has many more competent engineers then... any other country. They often steal ideas (everybody does), and even whole designs (less of everybody does). But i doubt they stole anything for ev-s. Making the "car" part is harder then the "electric part", especially for china.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

China has many more competent engineers then… any other country.

LOL

Funniest thing I've heard in a long time.

Tell me you know fuck-all about engineering and manufacturing without telling me you know fuck-all about engineering and manufacturing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

The frog in a well knows nothing of the sea.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Imagine thinking a "theft" of the idea of a trash can looking like a futuristic car dreamed of by kids in the 90s is something to cry over.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

They were very far ahead in many technical areas until recently. Revisionist history is silly.