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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

how can you not wear it if your teacher is wearing it

What logic is this? Just make everyone know that a school is a safe space where nobody is made to wear or not wear anything unless it's offensive (such as profane, racist or too revealing).

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Because a teacher is a role model and if your teacher is a role model for religion in a place that should be the one place free from it, then that's not working.
School can only be a safe place for children to take a breath from a religious background if religion stays completely out of it.
You think it can be a safe space when the girl gets told by its parents "look the teacher is wearing this, so you need too" even if the teacher isn't saying it?

Unfortunately religious clothing isn't just clothing like every other and religions of this world (not just one specific) are not about safe spaces, they want to be everywhere and they want to occupy school too. A secular country can not allow that.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

a teacher is a role model

Maybe in primary school but not really since middle school.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

...Also I was in a school with a strict dress code (light shirts only with no print) as well as one where a "MOTHERFUCKER" hoodie was apparently permitted. I don't really care either way but I don't see how prohibiting religious attire would help.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I literally said that nobody is [forced] to wear or not wear anything [...] - as in "total freedom unless offensive". You're implying I said the opposite.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But where does offensive start? People in my youth would've called some of our metal band shirts to be offensive.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, defining that is a bit of a problem. However, I am pretty sure most schools have had prior incidents that set a precedent. I guess some even have specific blacklist (hard curse words, depictions of nudity, revealing armpits etc.) or even a whitelist (sports gear in PE, clothing of major religions)

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

See, I would've never in a million years guessed armpits are somehow offensive to anyone.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ever been in a teenage boys' locker room? Armpits STINK.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You smell any armpits you see?

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Problem is, the "unless" part is different for everyone. Lot of people find religious stuff offensive, while the revealing stuff not.