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[-] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

This is gonna happen again, to right-wing jan 6 insurrectionist Jessica Watkins. A trans woman who is likely to be put into a male prison for 8 years.

That's exactly what she voted and insurrected for, right? A trans republican getting the taste of their anti-trans party's own medicine.

[-] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I don't think that the punishment meets the crime. No one deserves to be treated inhumanely in prison. No matter how mislead this person is, that's a terrible outcome.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

I can agree in principle. However, I can make exceptions for when people who vote for policies that promote and encourage discrimination experience the fruits of their labor first-hand.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

Well, if it were extrajudicial I would agree. Leopards ate her face. But this is our country's judicial system. It isn't wholly owned by the far right (though it's wildly close).

[-] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Then you have no principle with which to agree. You can’t be a fair weather ethicist. You either believe in human rights for ALL, including pieces of shit, or you don’t believe in them for ANYONE.

“Message to my enemies: when the revolution comes you’re not just gonna get the wall, Buddy, you’re gonna get four walls, a roof, clean clothes, good food, education, and quality health care, because that’s what every human being alive deserves.”

[-] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Precisely this. I tend to extend the tolerance paradox to violence, sometimes people have never been punched in the face and it shows. Just like tolerance of intolerance only allows intolerance to spread and shit all over everything, so does pacifism in the face of violence. I don't want her to be hurt, but she supported a system and society that sees violence against trans as a core value and she doesn't get to shocked Pikachu when she reaps the fruits of her labors.

Sucks to suck. 🤷

[-] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

We don't sentence & punish people based on their politics. That way leads only to crazy fascism.

[-] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago

Yes, and there's an irony to it. That doesn't change that it's cruel and absolutely not something that should be happening even to the worst people out there, regardless of how much we hate them or if it's exactly what they were pushing to make even worse.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

I'm sorry, do you want bad things to happen to trans people? Yeah, she's an insurrectionist, no, that doesn't mean she should get put in harm's way as part of her sentencing. Find your fucking heart.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Are trans rights human rights or not? You think it's fine for a trans women to be raped and murdered in a men's prison because her politics are shit? Well, thanks for letting us know where you stand.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

No one deserves to be raped and murdered in prison. The justice system is far from perfect but we don't sentence people to be raped and then murdered. We do rarely sentence people to death, but not by vigilante shanking or beating.

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