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Any TV is a dumb TV if you take it offline :)
But yes I'm also interested in what other people have afound about ths.
This used to feel true until Amazon Sidewalk happened.
Does Samsung use that? What about picking brands that don't use it? Remove antennas from things?
Sidewalk is (to my knowledge) only used by Amazon devices.
My point was more that Amazon advertised a system where if you didn't have internet, don't worry, you can use a neighbours. The current system is all opt in. The issue is that these major companies have never minded hiding other technology or its uses from the end user. We believe we can just block the device from the internet, but it is entirely possible that some of the TV's of today have similar systems to sidewalk (or even just cell connectivity) built right in.
Let's not forget when Google nest security systems sold in 2017 received an OTA update (in 2019) to be able to use voice commands (oops, did we not mention there were microphones in the device you bought?)
I'm not saying everyone needs to slap a tinfoil hat on. I'm just saying that while I also block these devices from the internet, it really feels like any day now things will become more difficult than that (possibly in devices we already own)
not entirely accurate
Please elaborate...
Whether they're online or not, if they're preloaded with crapware they're preloaded with crapware, and they're still technically "smart". If you're trying to avoid dealing with those smart UIs, then they're still a problem.
I put mine on hdmi input and never see anything but what I put through the hdmi ports.
a regular tv, none smart. That just displays images via a hdmi
Computer monitors may scratch your itch.
My smart TV that is not connected to the internet does this just fine. I only use the hdmi input, never connected it to my internet, never setup any apps.
The problem with that option - non-smart - is that it doesn't exist. 2 years ago when I bought a new tv and looked for what was on the market there was basically zero tvs non-smart. Every little and big brand available only has smart tvs.