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Aww ... poor little ISPs.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My ISP has no problem breaking out the fees.

And.... I am indeed, in the US.

So, not seeing the issue here.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's not actually about listing the fees. They're worried that if they have to list the fees, customers will realize they're paying 19.99 a month to rent a router, or are getting charged for a land line they didn't ask for.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And get a discount for letting the cable company claim they have cable TV to scam money from ESPN.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Honytawk 3 points 1 year ago

ESPN is probably paying cable companies to air their shows over their cables to customers with a subscription to ESPN.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Yea... Comcast is really bad about that. When I had them a decade back, I made sure to being my own hardware.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Americans pay extra for the ability to call emergency line 911!?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

911 and similar emergency numbers always cost money.

In many places individuals pays for it through taxes, but people may not realize it because there's 1 tax and 1 big budget that pays for many different public services.

In the US I guess the cost is separated from other public services, and paid through ISP via a fee.

[–] Honytawk 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm just here wondering who out there wouldn't want to be able to call the emergency line.

It shouldn't be a separate fee, but rather incorporated into the tax that pays for all the emergency services anyway.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

It’s a tax. You can’t refuse to pay it, it’s just itemized out like that. Only way to avoid paying it is to not pay for a phone.

It is a regressive tax which is bad (everyone who has a phone line pays the same instead of taxing the rich more) but there are bigger worries in America.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

You do too. It just might not be reflected on your phone bill, and is just lumped in with your normal taxes / VAT/etc....

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You're paying $130 a month for your internet?? Where in the price gouging place do you live?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

130 for 500gb fiber is an awesome deal in the US.

I used to pay $120/mo for business class 50mb asymmetrical coaxial with like 10 up. Had to get business class when Comcast started introducing data caps on the residential tier.

Now my ISP is bundled with my rent, so what I'm actually paying is totally opaque. No idea how much of my rent goes to Comcast. Oh, and it's not optional. I can't even get other service here because Comcast has a partnership with the building owners.

Telcos are fucked here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Trust me. This is CHEAP compared to what I had a decade ago.

One Decade ago, I paid 95$ a month for "15 mbit" ADSL. Which- topped out around 8Mbit/s on a GOOD day. (Rain/moisture wrecked hell on the lines around here.)