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Question for the iPhone vs Android crowd. Could this happen in the Apple App Store? Does Apple vet their apps better than Android?
I've submitted apps to both stores many times.
I hesitate to use the word "rigorous," but Apple's process is certainly more involved, though I'd say it's also bureaucratic and even arbitrary. Their primary concern is clearly maintaining their tight control over their users' phones, which is an extremely lucrative monopoly. The play process, by comparison, is definitely lighter, though I don't know if I'd be comfortable saying it's less well vetted.
Philosophically, relying on either of the duopolies to screen the software we use for safety is ultimately a bad system, especially since they are creating this problem. Until very recently, the internet existed on websites. They are pushing us to use mobile apps because it is more lucrative for them. Apple takes something like a 20% cut of every single transaction that happens on any iPhone app. They don't even allow non-apple-webkit browsers on iOS, meaning that the iphone's chrome, firefox, etc. are actually different than Android's. They do this specifically to hamstring mobile browser development.
They've managed to align the incentives here by offering tech companies more advertising revenue through the mobile platform. Basically, if you make a mobile app, Apple takes a huge cut each time your users pay you, but companies also get to spy on you more, meaning more lucrative advertising.
This is a very informative comment. That last paragraph neatly sums up the anti-consumer nature of mobile apps. Thank you for your insight, and chef's kiss for the username/pfp.
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Apple's app submission process is definitely very involved and rigorous, sometimes to the point of absurdity, but that's just the rules they have. We can talk about it all day another time, but I would certainly be impressed if straight up fake malware garbage got uploaded the same way that Google allows it to go on
I used Apple for the last few years until recently and I can't say I've ever really noticed stuff like apps faking being another app. That's not to say it doesn't happen of course.
I do know the Apple app approval process is definitely more strict than what is required for the Play Store.
I'm not very experienced with Apple or Android development so I'd be curious to hear from devs that use both platforms as well.
My experience is from years ago, but the vetting process seemed about the same for both when I was working on an app. The initial publish process takes forever. The update process through Apple was much simpler and that used to be a successful attack vector.
Since you rarely get feedback from updates, it's hard to say if Google was as vulnerable, but I've heard that the update scheme is still a thing. Publish a legit app then push malicious updates.
Interesting, thanks for the info!
I wasn't aware of the update process being used as an attack vector (if it's still a thing) gonna have to read up more on that.
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They do. There is only one option in my App Store.