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The homeowner who fatally shot a 20-year-old University of South Carolina student who tried to enter the wrong home on the street he lived on Saturday morning will not face charges because the incident was deemed "a justifiable homicide" under state law, Columbia police announced Wednesday.

Police said the identity of the homeowner who fired the gunshot that killed Nicholas Donofrio shortly before 2 a.m. Saturday will not be released because the police department and the Fifth Circuit Solicitor’s Office determined his actions were justified under the state's controversial "castle doctrine" law, which holds that people can act in self-defense towards "intruders and attackers without fear of prosecution or civil action for acting in defense of themselves and others."

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

probably depends on if guns are involved or not.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This is such an annoying answer. I've had a strange man enter my home unannounced. I remember standing just behind a wall with intent to stab him with the knife I had because if someone breaks into your house you don't assume a good time. Even without guns strangers are dangerous. That maintenance guy was seriously lucky I happen to recognize him in that split sec and stopped before stabbing him in the chest.

I'm American and I've never worried about guns. They aren't as common as people think in a lot of areas. Mostly we have a few yahoo's with a shitton of guns and most people with zero. I've still been in several situations where I felt unsafe without guns even being a consideration. If this dude was doing all that at my house, I'd call the police and then wait with a knife like I did with that stupid maintenance guy I almost stabbed who should have known better.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That maintenance guy is an idiot. I worked maintenance for years and you never enter someone's home without ringing or knocking and waiting for a reply (even if they say the home will be empty). When you do unlock the door you open it slowly while calling out, "Hello! Maintnance!" I'd say 30% of the time someoine was there when I was assured the property would be empty. Kid skipping school, home sick and forgot our appoinment, etc.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

You are correct. That's why I didn't assume maintenence guy, but instead rapist.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

How did they enter your home? Did he have a key? Had you called for maintenance?

He's definitely an idiot.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Nope. He had a key, I guess he used it? IDK I just heard my fucking door open. He was there to fix something or other that was causing issues with the apartment below Mr. It was like 2PM which I guess is why he didn't announce himself, but yeah he almost died.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To be fair, here's the thing. If you replace a gun with a knife, while that doesn't erase the chance of death by any means, it does lower the chance of death significantly. Because despite what a lot of people might think, in a fight, you're a lot more likely to survive if your attacker has a knife than you would if your attacker has a gun. If you hadn't recognized your maintenance guy right away and attacked him, then he'd still be better off with you wielding a knife than if you'd been wielding a gun instead.

And in a country with less guns, both you and a potential robber are less likely to have guns. Maybe you would use a knife, but clearly not everyone would, and saying "there's not as many as you'd think in a lot of areas areas" is all fine and well, but the statistics show that the US has an absolutely mind boggling amount of guns per capita compared to any other country. The US literally has more guns than people. In other countries, it's not just in some areas where guns are less common, it's every area, and most have less than even the areas in US's that have less guns. Countries that are literally at war have less guns per capita than the US does.

Obviously that doesn't mean you'll never be in danger without any guns around, but you will generally be in less danger over-all, and even when you do get into danger you will still be less likely to die.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Gunshots are actually less deadly than knife wounds btw.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's not true, gunshot wounds actually have a significantly lower survival rate than stab wounds. I can provide some studies on the topic if you're interested.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Can you support that statement...?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Lot more likely to shoot somebody before you have a chance to stop vs stabbing them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

People don't just drop when they get stabbed and a stronger person can pretty easily take a knife from a weaker one. If you're trying to defend yourself from a real attacker with a knife you're probably going to have a bad time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Mostly we have a few yahoo’s with a shitton of guns and most people with zero.

How do you know that? Are there actually stats on that? I'm a left-leaning gun owner, and I'm careful to avoid talking about guns around most people to avoid unnecessary conflict. The people who make it their entire personality are a very vocal minority.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Because I've lived in shitty areas with actual drug dealers and BS like that. Less people have guns than you might imagine. Maybe it's different in nowhere USA, but in urban shithole, USA and Middle class suburbia that's about what I've found. People have like 3+ guns or none at all. I guess it's possible all my friends are just hiding this from me for some reason and in my hometown I just happen to know all the people who shoot guns, but honestly it's been rare that I've seen people with just one gun. It's not that I've never seen it. My cousin's husband owns exactly one gun.

I don't think there's any way to get stats, but I think that the US has more guns than people lends some credibility to this idea.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

So it's all anecdotal, and based on what people tell you? Like I said, gun nuts are a very vocal minority.

And I've lived in a slum too. An apartment in the building I lived in was basically a trap house, a neighbor was stabbed on his way home from work, my gf's vehicle was stolen, my vehicle was vandalized, and someone tried to enter my apartment because he was drunk and confused. And after all of that, I still have no idea how many of my neighbors had guns because most sensible gun owners don't advertise the fact.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

::gasp:: Actual drug dealers??

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

this uh...this story just kind of reinforces how bad of an idea guns are, cus you would have killed a guy who also wasnt trying to kill you.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Depending on the gun they maybe wouldn't have killded him, even if they hit them. Also if you are already jumping at someone with a knife, it's not that much easier to stop than a gunshot.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes it is. Take a look at gun homicides vs knife. Guns are more deadly and we have the deaths to prove it.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Stab wounds are far less deadly, and far more treatable compared to gunshot wounds.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

You're right, and there are lots of studies backing this up. Even if you compare similar wounds like neck wounds from stabbing vs getting shot, and getting stabbed in the heart vs being shot in the heart. Stab wound victims are much more likely to survive than gunshot wound victims.