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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Free_Asia_(Committee_for_a_Free_Asia)
Your citation is CIA propaganda.
You are correct, that's a shit source. They've lied alot in the past, apologies for my failure here.
Here are some better sources: https://www.axios.com/2020/01/23/china-arrests-university-minnesota-twitter
https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/china-student-arrested-xi-jinping/
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-china-blog-40627855
Thank you for the correction
The first two articles are not about a ban on Winnie the Pooh in China which was the subject of the original claim, so I'll put a pin in that.
Your BBC link isn't really a better source than RFA. Instead of a cutout it's just state media. And what's in that article is just a straight up lie.
https://www.quora.com/Is-Winnie-the-Pooh-really-banned-in-China-or-is-it-Western-propaganda-Could-someone-living-in-China-answer-that-question
You can talk to actual people in China. They can take photos with their cameras of the displays of licensed Disney products with Winnie the Pooh for sale. The idea that they banned Winnie the Pooh is cold war propaganda. And it can only be maintained in a bubble.
That is a quora link my dude, and is not a reasonable citation. Just some guy. To claim it's a lie with your proof being a random dude on quora, a site I frequent due to their insane conspiracy theories, nazi delusion and trump dick sucking, and obviously made up stories, is not convincing.
You are correct though, the concept of winnie the pooh is not fully banned, just in refference to their authoritarian leader. As all critisism of their government is censored, or banned.
Secondarily, these posts do speak on winnie the pooh.
From the first article:
Thirdly, I could give you a million links and they'd always be 'propaganda'. I need you to substantiate that for the BBC. Here's a few more: https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/winnie-the-pooh-china-ban https://wikiless.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Winnie-the-Pooh_in_China?lang=en https://www.cnn.com/2017/07/18/asia/china-pooh-censor-trnd/index.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/07/china-reportedly-bans-disneys-winnie-the-pooh-film-after-xi-compariso.html https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/07/china-bans-winnie-the-pooh-film-to-stop-comparisons-to-president-xi https://www.npr.org/2023/03/23/1165504942/winnie-the-pooh-xi-jinping-china-film https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/south-park-banned-chinese-internet-critical-episode-1245783/
Lastly, I know many Chinese people, and talk to them frequently about this subject. The issue to you seems to be that I'm talking to the 'wrong' Chinese people. This 'if you just speak to these people' argument is never a convincing one. On either side, Chinese people arguing for or against either of our opinions on the subject does not provide proof for or against. Nearly half of Americans think that Joe Biden is a socialist. I hope we can agree that's dumb