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[–] Vlyn 136 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I'm mostly fine with shorts, except for two things:

  1. You can't move around in them, it's either play or pause and repeat, which sucks (as shorts don't have to be short..)

  2. On the homepage it doesn't show who the short is from (which channel) without opening them

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

You also can't adjust the volume in browser. You have to go to a normal video, change it, and then go back.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just use the system audio control?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But why do I have to do that when every other video player has a volume slider?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On the contrary, why bother hunting the down the slider for every different player when you could just use the system?

Just curious, since I use the youtube slider like once a month.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m not the guy you asked, but I assume they do as I do. My system volume is calibrated for all the various applications I use day to day, including video conferencing. If I have to adjust that, it means everything else is the wrong volume. I’d rather modify YouTube to be the right volume than everything else.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This. My system volume is calibrated to be similar across all applications, games, etc. This means all apps are individually adjusted to reach similar volume level. Why should I have to mess with all of my other volumes just random manager at Youtube decided a volume slider on shorts isn't necessary despite the site still using volume from regular videos where it can be adjusted? This isn't an issue with any other app or platform. Maybe the last Youtube video I watched had overly quiet or loud audio compared to the norm and I either have insanely loud audio or I can't hear a damned thing and I can't fix it quickly like on any other Youtube page.

Not everyone had a set of dedicated volume buttons, or wheel, etc. on their keyboard, so having to go into Windows settings or reach for a knob or button on the speakers themselves to adjust is a lot more than getting a slider like every other website in the world gives you.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can't move around in them, it's either play or pause and repeat, which sucks (as shorts don't have to be short..)

Oddly enough, this seems to be a desktop limitation. I can scrub backwards and forwards just fine on my phone.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hopefully desktop PC hardware will become powerful enough to gain the ability to skip around in 30 second videos someday. I think I read that they expect them to be at parity with smartphone hardware in the next decade or two.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They don't even need a seek bar, just support arrow keys

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

It's also annoying that you can't save them without using the hack where you change the URL.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

You can scrub around in them. Look for the red bar on the bottom after the short starts. You can tap and drag on it and a little red circle will appear that will show briefly after you release.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You can move around in them. Atleast on Android, there is a hidden red bar at the bottom which becomes visible if you pause the video.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a problem with all of these Tik Tok clones (and even Tik Tok let’s you do it for some videos). It’d so annoying to be watching a 45 second reel but if I miss something, I have to watch the whole thing again

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I have the exact opposite problem? I can skip around just fine in shorts, but can't in reels... Is this due to A/B testing or am I dumb?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I simply prefer TikTok for short form videos due to unique community and reasonably entertaining algorithm.

I enjoy YouTube to the point of paying for Premium but I hate that my YouTube subscriptions feed on TV is littered with shorts that I have no way of disabling other than hiding them one by one (which I do to make a point).

Suits at Google will try to shove it into everyone's throats until they get bored and someone adds it to killedbygoogle.com so why would anyone even bother with it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is why I use LibreTube. It just filters all the Shorts

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm deep in Apple ecosystem and unfortunately this is not an option on Apple TV as far as I know.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

In case of Apple TV, it's the smoothest TV software experience, leaps and bounds above any ad-ridden smart TV or aging Nvidia Shield. I used Android TV and it's just jank. For a time I had HTPC with Kodi too, it's been relegated to hosting Plex and downloading stuff from Usenet. I enjoyed freedom to install anything but ultimately this didn't outweight better audio codec support on Apple TV.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ad-ridden smart TV

Oh the irony...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not sure what you're making a stab at.

Apple software is obviously ad free and I have no problem with paying for YouTube Premium due to value it provides. Some good soul on Lemmy also recommended me a way to block sponsored content via isponsorblocktv which is a script that runs on my server and skips sponsored segments by reading YouTube app state and sending fast forward commands like a remote would.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not sure what you're making a stab at.

The fact that you're calling Android "ad-ridden" (which it's not) in a conversation about how you can't remove ads on Apple devices.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I called smart TVs ad-ridden, might have been bad wording on my part.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's amazing how much social credit you possibly have. Xi Jinping is proud of you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Are you alright there mate?