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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The fact that being stoic, emotionless or even cold is seen as a trait of masculinity is incredibly frustrating. I feel men should be encouraged to be passionate and expressive with their emotions. Anger shouldn't be the only one we encourage as a society. Have you ever seen a man glow up about his lego collection, or cry at a beautiful scene in a movie they love? More of that please.

Also, men are just as deserving of support networks as anyone else. Though we all experience life differently, we are all human in the end.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The fact that people took Stoicism, a philosophy that's basically cognitive behavioral therapy for emotional awareness, and twisted it to mean "stiff upper lip" or "repress everything lest you seem weak" is depressing as hell.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's one of the reasons I've taken a liking to Diogenes' Cynicism, seeing past the "social norms" and dumb social organization ideas humans come up with.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I also prefer the Cynics. Diogenes is metal as fuck, but my favourite part of Cynicism is that in my opinion, it contains the only true love story in Greek philosophy, Crates and Hipparchia who influenced Zeno, the founder of Stoicism. I'm a sucker for a good love story.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That, and at the same time it's manly to be angry.

So you're supposed to be emotionless, unless the emotion pushes towards violence.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is one reason that Star Trek and Spock and data resonate with me