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"It would be great if people had to buy more of the thing," says guy who makes money selling the thing.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Damn, lot of hate for physical media in this thread.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Xbox One announcement (E3 2013): "YOU CAN TAKE MY DISKS FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS!

Current Year (2023): "Disks are outdated and dead, who needs em anyway?"

Y'all forget way too easily and they are starting to prey upon it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The problem is it’s kind of murky now since most discs don’t even contain the game anymore. So yeah you can lend/sell them but you’re still dependent on a digital store. It’s just a license for a digital game in physical form. I say this as a physical media proponent.

I am not pro-digital only but if the discs don’t have the game I’m less inclined to pay extra for what is likely to be the first part of my console to fail.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

To be fair, most people are thinking of the reasons of ownership, whereas xbox one was about availability.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes it is weird. I get people preferring digital copies but I dont get having hostility toward physical media.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Because there's a lot of misinformation in this thread.

All media is physical media. All data is stored on a medium. Data is real and physical. Some data is stored on paper in ink writing, some data is stored as ones and zeroes on a disc drive, but the type of disc drive may vary. Hard drives, USB thumbsticks, SSDs, and so on, are all physical media.

If I destroy a BluRay, or destroy a hard drive, or burn a piece of paper, does the data still physically exist? No. In all cases, destroying the medium in which the data exists destroys the data. Whether it is paper, a disc you put in a drive, or a hard drive.

When something is stored "in the cloud" it's still on a hard drive somewhere, just not on your hard drive somewhere. You have essentially chosen to store your property on someone else's private property. Much like a physical storage unit. If the storage unit burns down, everything in it will cease to exist. If the data center where your cloud data is stored burns down without any backups, same issue, the data ceases to exist.

People in this thread specifically only dislike one type of physical media, and it's a type that has one of the shorter shelf-lifes for long-term data storage.

Also, with hard drives, its often trivial to recover deleted data, which is why companies that deal with secure data often completely shred old hard drives to prevent data being exfiltrated from them after wiping.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is needlessly pedantic. When people say “physical copy” they are talking about a physical, individual storage medium with a game on it that you can trade/sell/lend/etc. and give full transfer of the license contained on it. My hard drive is useless to you if all my games are bought via the Microsoft store and you can’t access my account. My halo 3 disc will work on any Xbox 360/Xbone/XSX for anyone every day. Is the distinction clear now?