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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I've seen the city computers running windows XP... no way they equipped a sign with GPS and have someone swapping out the battery.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be honest, as long as they're not on an external network, it doesn't matter what OS they are running as long as it runs the needed software.

There are massive industrial CNC machines running on even older Windows systems than XP because the software won't work on a newer OS. There's no reason to upgrade if it means having to replace a massive multi-million dollar machine.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One problem they can face is hardware failure. It becomes difficult to replace the hardware with something that works on those old operating system.

There are business’ built around refurbishing old stuff for these computers, but it’s pretty expensive.

It’s a short term solution. A real long term solution is to have the software rewritten.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The hardware for CNC machines is still being made, and the controller doesn't really "wear out". It's not getting constant updates and it only really runs one program. The software could be fixed, sure, just need to find someone who can get the Fanuc environment to run on a Mazak Fabrigear 300. And then they need to do the same thing for this Mazak Fabrigear 400, no, it doesnt use the same control environment as the 300. And the Haas mill. And the Amada F0-3015 flat laser. And the Cincinnati press brake. And the Strippit turret punch.

The issue isn't that it can't be done, the issue is you'd have to write a new control environment for each type of machine, and most machine shops don't have the capital to throw at each machine to solve a problem that doesn't really affect them at all.