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I got some old, secondhand tools from Bulgaria. Feeling like want to layan my superstitious side for a bit - anyone got any small petua to make sure old things don't have any unsatisfied energy?
Expose to sunlight.. Bcos 'dirty' things are affaird of sunlight.
First thing i did! Tqtq
I'm curious what tools you got. I like appreciate good tools.
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This is **not **a double entendre.LMAOOOOOOO welllll I spin yarn by hand (do you know, due to a number of factors, our cultural groups here excelled in weaving but never really developed the economies of scale to make thread?) so these are some non-Western European European spindles (wah, so complicated; it's just the more non-Orthodox Church and Ottoman side developed different techniques). I'm moving to a fedi-version of a photoblog, but here's my IG* one with one of my last photos on it: https://www.instagram.com/p/CbcCyRAJjMw/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
*my god IG is useless these days to actually see my follows
Oooh this is a totally new thing to me. So the Bulgarian tools you got are the spindles, which are the wooden sticks to wind the yarn around right?
Yep yep. The sticks also provides the torque to twist the fibres, then when I twist enough, i wind it around them. Machine spinning also same basically, just different energy source hahaha.
Wait... if you don't mind, how did our people start developing weaving? Was thread easily available from trading?
the very short answer is related to balance of trade + geopolitics. It's not at all surprising if you know how textiles are like, to understand why the first tools that was mechanized and ushered in the Industrial Age were related to this industry (Europe had domestic and colonial reasons for wanting to speed this up as well as break the domination of India).
so yeah, thread made better sense for us to source rather than do (Indians had the best fine cottons, and until Egypt and America were British-colonized, nowhere else can compete; Nusantara don't have the best soil for cotton as a mass industry; China had the best silk and pretty much made it illegal to export the silkworms out), and we had other things that make better sense to trade like local organic goods; our marine navigation etc. Weaving tech for the nusantara groups (the Straits Chinese and later waves had a different cultural source) came from the north via Vietnam. Weaving basically became a thing in every cultural group worldwide, because textiles are expensive - in our case, we're so rich from the other things to get that we actually did more trade with finished Indic textiles, but eventually we did it too because you can't just wait for India (not China as textile source though; we're an Indic sphere region) - lol this is why the British also developed a weaving industry in Manchester and northern England.
In Malay the name of the loom (kek siam = siamese loom), tells you where our tech initially came from. This was the same with the more Malay/Muslim groupings in Borneo as well (the transfer of tech, which is via trade), while groups like Iban maintained backstrap weaving (where the loom tech requires your body to be part of the frame and tensioning; unlike the more stationery cultural groups who put in more energy in floor looms etc that're non-moveable).
alamak, still long answer hahahahaha
Thanks for sharing your knowledge!