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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No one ever gets the point until people start getting beaten, threatened, wounded, maimed or killed. They'll keep arguing the details until there is an authoritarian government telling you what you can or can't do or say.

Then everyone stands around wondering how it all happened.

Most regular people I know just want to live life and not really bother with anyone else in a negative way .. in fact most people I've ever known would do something good for the other person if it meant it would help. Most people are just good and have a very good nature.

It's the psychotic few billionaires and millionaires out there that want a world with authoritarian fascist government in power because it means those wealthy few get to keep all their money and if they do get their way, they can exponentially grow the wealth they already have. It's all about money and power.

It's all about a handful of morons who aren't aware of their finite life that believe they can become temporary rulers of the world.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Some number of people are getting maimed, wounded, or killed. Do people have a threshold number at which point they decide it's too much?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I like to explain it as such:

The Mediterranean is full of dead bodies from asylum seekers, but people still bath there. People will not bathe in a pool, if that pool has a single cadaver in it. Some might say that it doesn't count because you can't see the bodies in the Mediterranean, but you can in the pool. but even if the pool has an angle and the corpse obscured behind said angle, people won't swim in it if they are told this in advance. so clearly there must be some ratio of dead people to water that society sees as acceptable.

so to answer your question, yes, and we haven't reached that point yet, and the right is doing it's best to keep that bar as high as possible.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

I like this explanation too, actually

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Never expected to see this joke used in such a way

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Usually hunger .... if you look through history, change doesn't happen in societies because people are poor, abused, imprisoned, impoverished or have a lack of luxuries .... change often happens when people go hungry because at that point they all realize that if they have no food, they will die ... and when they can see death, especially their own death, they no longer have anything to lose and will fight for some kind of change ....

And even that want for change is dangerous because it can come in many forms ... good change, bad change, fascist change, socialist change, democratic change, authoritarian change.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

in your post the thing I liked the most, the most significant in my opinion, it's

They'll keep arguing the details

this is the sum of all the thread. there's so much on this few words. in my understanding,vsums up perfectly what I'd describe as the paranoia feeding the knitpicking and the extenuating effort to manage the malice. thank you