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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It’s also worth noting that the government can’t limit free speech. We as citizens can boycott, bully, and harass hateful speech and should

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It’s also worth noting that the government can’t limit free speech.

But it can and does! Go on Facebook and detail how you will storm and overthrow your state government next Monday at noon and see how long it takes for your speech to land you in jail. Or incite a stampede in a cinema by yelling "Fire!". And that's just two examples. Libel and slander are other examples where "just words" can get you in trouble with the government.

The idea of complete unlimited speech in the US is a fantasy. They clearly can and do draw lines at what you can and can't say in public. The only question is where this lines are.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, fair. That’s a whole nother can of worms to this discussion where physical harm results from words rather than simply expressing abhorrent beliefs

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, WW2 in Europe and it's resulting horrors was basically the result of Hitler and Mussolini "simply expressing abhorrent beliefs". That's how they got into power in the first place and also how they got the better part of their population behind their insane dreams.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I agree with you there

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I’m with you on boycotting. Not with you on the abuse. Boycotting is not abuse. Though the bros with the cancel culture shirts seem to think so.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Citizens have their own limitations when their response strays outside the realm of speech. Boycotts are fine—you have no obligation to buy what they're selling. However, harassment is not okay, and bullying is not okay. These things are wrong (and coincidentally illegal) on their own merits, and not a justified response to someone else's speech.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I wouldn’t go so far as saying bullying hateful and racist actors is illegal, but I think it’s a fair point that you have to use judgment and empathy when dealing with differing opinions