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There's a separate level of unfairness here:
Right side is making $16-$25 per hour.
Left side has an hourly rate that's almost always less than minimum wage. This is allowed because of the assumed tip income.
Depends on what state you live in. For example, CA requires wait staff to be paid at least minimum wage. Also, many cooks are also receiving minimum wage.
All wait staff have to be paid minimum wage, it's a federal law. If they don't make minimum wage in tips, then the employer has to make up the difference.
Which is a massive pain in the ass to actually track and prove, and employees who do it don't tend to stick around for long. Especially if you (like me) live in an at-will employment state where no reason for dismissal is required.
Tips shouldn't be classified as paying wages.
Next time I'll pay my bill entirely in tips, so the owner doesn't get a cent. See if they like it.
That doesn't make any sense, the food/rent/maintenance/utilities/insurance/etc isn't paid by the servers.
Plus, waiters have to deal with client bullshit directly.
Plenty of low paying jobs make you deal with clients and not receive tip.
You're saying we should tip IT support?
This part depends on the state, thankfully. Seems phased out on most of the West coast, to my knowledge. I know it's still pretty widespread in the south.
Being phased out in DC too. That said, the transition period has been rough, many places are now using service fees to cover the costs, which makes sense but the fact that it’s still so inconsistent causes great annoyance.
Then again, so do tipping expectations, what exactly am I paying for? Can I opt out? What legally constitutes a tipped employee? WHY ARE THERE TIPPING OPTIONS AT FAST FOOD PLACES NOW!?
Overall, a clusterfuck that I’m happy to see is dying out, (I’ve also heard that it’s racially and sexually unjust.)
Here in Ontario everyone has to be paid minimum wage but, tips are still very expected. Kinda bugs me since they prob make more than I do lol
No idea what it's like up north but the highest hourly job I've ever had was serving tables in college. Over a week it averaged out to $25-45/hr depending on the season and some other factors. Did it for about a year before the stress and irregular hours made it not even worth that much money. But it definitely changed how I perceived wait staff.
Waiters where I used to work were some of the best paid employees in the place even when including directors that were making 130k+... if they had included all their tip on their paycheck (instead of the default 10% of every bill under their name) they would have ended up getting a 0$ paycheck every two weeks and would have still owed taxes at the end of the year... and that's while making above minimum wage from the get go...
Yea I know some servers who make great money
I'm only slightly above minimum wage with no tips so, pressure to leave 15-20% tips def bugs me
And depending on where you are left side has to pay a portion of their tip to the kitchen and runners as well.