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How to avoid war with China? (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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For those of us, unfortunately, in the imperial core, what steps should we take to stop a US war with China over Taiwan? I've honestly been pretty scared since the war in Ukraine started knowing that China is next. We must avoid this at all costs to save the thousands of Chinese lives that will be sacrificed by the west in their bid to reestablish a unipolar world.

While I'm not discounting the achievements of the anti-war movement in support of Vietnam, the war still waged on for years. The same with Iraq. What should be done differently?

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[+] [email protected] -7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The only people in Taiwan with the right to self determination are the Taiwanese Indigenous peoples and Taiwan's proletariat. And because of the constant state of western interference and propaganda upon the populace in Taiwan, much like South Korea, the are more barriers to understanding that being apart of the PRC, like Hong Kong and Macau, is a good thing in the long run.

While The White Terror did end, we must recognize that the ROC itself is still a western backed colonially dominated capitalist regime, and is therefore illegitimate.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The only people in Taiwan with the right to self determination are the Taiwanese Indigenous peoples and Taiwan’s proletariat.

There are no indigenous peoples in Taiwan. We all come from Africa.

Having established the extreme, where do you cut the line who can exert self-determination? Most inhabitants of Taiwan were born in Taiwan, on what ground can't they decide their fate?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

It is more complicated than other examples of indignity because of Taiwan's unique history of colonial dominance, that being that it isn't a settler colonial project. The Han people there are not there with the explicit purpose of the eradication of the island's indigenous peoples. This is why I include the island's mostly Han proletariat as having, to an extent, to say in self determination. This situation is a lot less cut and dry than a settler colonial state like Israel, where the settler proletariat, due to their settler status, does not have any say in the self-determination and state of Palestine, only the Palestinians do.