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With the Voice to Parliament Referendum date announced to be October 14 2023, this thread will run in the lead up to the date for general discussions/queries regarding the Voice to Parliament.

The Proposed Constitutional Amendment

Chapter IX Recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples

129 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice

In recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the First Peoples of Australia:

there shall be a body, to be called the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice; the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice may make representations to the Parliament and the Executive Government of the Commonwealth on matters relating to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples; the Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws with respect to matters relating to the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice, including its composition, functions, powers and procedures.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

so that 7 news story on the Adelaide "No" protest pretty much told me all I need to know about the No side.

conspiracy theorists, shouty people, antivax nonsense and racism. what any of that had to do with the referendum who knows

edit: sydney and melbourne too it seems. its almost as if certain types of people swing to the No side

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don't forget neo nazis who are actively supporting the no campaign. Dutton and co can try to lie and convince people that they care about making things better for Indigenous Australians all they want but there's absolutely no fucking reality where nazis give a shit about this. Not all people who vote no are racists, but all racists will vote no.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

One question I have, which I haven't been able to ask anyone since I'm a recluse, is "what positive societal change is made by voting no?"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

“what positive societal change is made by voting no?”

That's the wrong question. I don't think any positive change will be made by voting no - but I also don't think any positive change will be made by voting yes. In fact I think that there will be more negative change by voting yes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nothing. Even the Progressive No campaign has can't answer that question. The closest they got was claiming a successful Yes vote would lead to more racism in Australia because everyone would be unhappy with Indigenous Australians getting a Voice...even though they would have literally just voted Yes to it in that scenario.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

People voted for Brexit and a lot of them are unhappy about it, not that I expect the same would hold true of the Voice.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

yep. and to be frank my opinion is if you take the same side as people like this, you are tarnished by their presence

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Less than the active racism on the news, there's a hell of a lot of people who think righting wrongs isn't worth the small sum of cash and time that a voice will take up in the public sphere. People who think because we've been forced into a minority that we should lay down and accept being trodden on.