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Rejoining isn’t necessarily inevitable. Any damage is already done and any gain from attempting to rejoin the EU within the next decade or so will be undone by the show of political instability.
Now that the UK has left, it’s better to stay out and just make do with what they have. Maybe if the government was less incompetent or more forward thinking then the UK would be able to use the fact that London is the second most important city in the world and do something actually useful or innovative.
It is true that there is no evidence of rejoining just yet. If the Tories remain in power after the next GE then the con will continue. This will mean more divergence from EU standards, with the obvious result of making it harder to rejoin. Starmer has promised closer alignment. Convergence will make the case of rejoining so much clearer and more acceptable. As I have already said, our import processes have gapping holes. If we get an incident because of this, then the case to rejoin will be complete. An attack on a country's health will change people opinions immediate effects.
To me all of this says that we need to educate previous Tory voters exactly what they are voting for, and convince more kids to vote.
Nah. When I say rejoining is inevitable, I mean "in all but name". As in, the coming decades will be spent working towards all the advantages of being in the EU without joining the EU. Reduced tarrifs, immigration treaties, streamlined imports et cetera.
Well that would make Brexit a huge success would it not?
No, Britain could simply have remained and not had to endure the deleterious effects of leaving.
Having left, now they have to work on regaining the advantages they once had.
If Britain can manage to get back every benefit of being in the EU without actually being in the EU, that will be potentially the biggest success story that could possibly come from brexit.
Good lord. Obviously that's not possible.
UK voted to leave the EU when obviously they would be worse off. Therefore, UK governance had to leave the EU, but of course they will spend the foreseeable future working to diminish the problems that leaving created.
For example, as part of the EU you have free trade. Leaving the EU no free trade. Therefore, they'll spend the next n years developing agreements to cut tariffs and reduce red tape.
It’s not possible but your the one who said they would spend the next few years working to get every benefit of the EU like free trade without rejoining, if that was pulled off, then Brexit would definitely be a success.
And they don’t have to go back to the EU although it makes the most sense, they can really go anywhere else in the world and try to get a trade deal, it’s really a matter of pride as to who they go to trade with.
What I actually said...
Yeah, and if they can successfully achieve what you said, that would make Brexit successful, would it not?
... and if my grandmother had wheels she would have been a bike.