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Active users as of June 25, 2023:

  • lemmy.world (48k users): 13554 active users
  • lemmy.ml (38k users): 4582 active users
  • beehaw.org (11k users): 3743 active users
  • feddit.de (6.7k users): 2320 active users
  • sh.itjust.works (6.5k users): 2167 active users
  • lemmy.ca (3.5k users): 1082 active users

Great to see all this growth and activity in different lemmy instances!

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Good. It is important to have different instances to distribute the load though. However, I hope there are not many people joining BeeHaw...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

As long as people understand the circumstances of that instance I have absolutely no problem with people finding the place they belong.

I just hope there are not new users who don't realize they may not be federated with the larger community.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope there are not many people joining BeeHaw…

I don't hope that, exactly, I just hope that the people who join understand what they're getting (and, more importantly, what they aren't). I fully support a community with a different goal than most, and their goal seems like a wholesome one. I personally think it's doomed to failure, but I support them giving it a try. They're barely part of the fediverse though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There still some good instances that Beehaw is federated with, but my personal issue is that it feels very fragile. If a couple of bigots show up on other instances and the mods don't delete their posts right away, will Beehaw defederate from them? There is a line between protecting your users and barring them from accessing anything you don't approve of, and I think they need to figure out where they stand in regards to that line. Beehaw feels more like a small forum than a piece of something bigger.

Defederating because of raiding, harassment, bots, etc is 100% understandable but it should not be done lightly.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why not beehaw? Did something happen?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They defederated with the some of the largest instances that have open registration due to the influx of people causing issues in their own communities and the lack of mod tools to address the issue. People are still pissy about it despite beehaw admins stating they will lift the defederation once lemmy mod tools improve…

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder, if lemmy.world is so unsafe, why are you here?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where did I say it was unsafe? I was pointing out the dishonesty people have been showing in regards to discussing the reason why beehaw chose to defederate.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where did I say it was unsafe?

Beehaw did imply that, the communication with Ruud was poor, and their "moderation" excuse is simply them acting in bad faith and you seem to agree with them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They might have implied as such (I don't personally think they did, but such an observation is objective.), but I myself didn't in the post above, and to say I did is dishonest. For the record, I believe they did what they had to do with the limited options they currently have. And I did not like it. Hence why I made an account on here as well. It's not a fascist regime, and I was pointing out the fact that the people acting like it is are being ridiculous. I directly witnessed the reasons why they defederated and quite ironically, an immense rise of interactions escalating precisely like this causing issues in their own communities and limited staffing to address such (especially towards the vulnerable minority communities beehaw wants to protect in ways reddit did not) in a short amount of time is quite exactly why they chose to defederate. Have a lovely day.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

They've defederated from both lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works. They're still a good community, but I don't consider them part of the fediverse at this point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Regardless of what happened, beehaw is not for everyone.

They aim to be a safe haven for people that are afraid to be harassed for who they are. It's a noble goal IMO but to achieve that, they have to moderate their instance quite heavily.

If you're not their target audience, you'll find it too restrictive.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Whats wrong with beehaw? I got a couple really active, good communities from there in my feed

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

They block a shit ton of instances, not always for good reasons. Often to maintain an echo chamber.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Looks like beehaw.org is shedding users. They've lost about a thousand users since defederating from lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works last week. Maybe a bunch of people weren't happy with that move.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They’re probably ok with that