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Nobody did a check on this old dude? How embarrassing, our enemies love these kind of amateur mistakes.
This is embarrassing. Russia is already taking advantage of it.
https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6977248
Peskov is (ugh) right. How oblivious do you have to be to not clue in when this guy is announced as having fought against the Russians in WW2? Unless he's Finnish (which he is not), which side do you think that puts him on?
Canadians really need to start voting for actual competent people instead of parties. Even the pretense of parading a Ukrainian guy around due to the Russian invasion is rather repugnant behavior.
The problem is that if the candidate from Party "A" is a competent weasel who wants to undermine everything I stand for, and party "B"'s candidate is an incompetent boob who won't help matters but also is popular and won't actively ruin everything, then it's far more important to my interests that party "A"'s candidate not be voted in than it is to cast a vote for candidate "C". The system is working how is designed to and the only people who are capable of changing it are the ones benefiting from it being broken, so the only way that's likely to happen is if there were somehow a mass exodus away from the big two parties.
He wasn’t introduced that way, though. He was just introduced as a “Ukrainian war hero and a Canadian war hero [and we thank him for his service]”. That’s why it’s not surprising that everyone gave him an ovation. Who wouldn’t? The issue is that the person introducing him, who didn’t even tell anyone else about his attendance or that he would be recognized, although he got some basic facts right (the guy fought in Ukraine and now lives in Canada), didn’t bother to vet the context of those facts. It’s incredibly sloppy and incredibly embarrassing.
Immediate edit: I have finally seen a video of this and he definitely says “Ukrainian independence against Russia”. Oooooooof.
If I did something like that, I'd probably resign immediately. It's worrying that our politicians don't think that way
In most cases, I think I’d chalk it up to human beings being human and call it a mistake. This was just careless and thoughtless, though.
Don't we kinda give the Finns a pass on this shit already?
Russia was on Germany's side at the beginning of the war. They invaded Poland with Germany.
Ukrainians and other EE peoples fought against the Red Army who did not collaborate with the Nazi regime...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaroslav_Hunka this the guy, just for reference
I am not arguing that this specific dude collaborated, my understanding a few thousand of them surrenders to allies and end up in Canada.
Just addressing above claim that anyone who fought Russians during WW2 is a Nazi collaborator.
There didn't even need to be a check. Just the phrase "he fought in WWII against the Russians" would tell them all they needed if they put 2 seconds of thought into it.
Poland fought and lost against the Russians in WW2. Are they Nazis?
Some of them undeniably were.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collaboration_in_German-occupied_Poland
But that's beyond the point, Poland and Finland are corner cases. The guy is Ukrainian.
He lived in Polish Ukraine at the time. Still not excusing fighting for the Nazis.
Whenever I think of a country that would have a loving relationship with the Nazis, it would be poland.
For anyone that has a hard time understanding sarcasm, that was extremely sarcastic.
Nope, politicians hard at work as always.