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Do you think humans became extinct, transferred into computers, moved onto other corners of the universe, or became the horses?
Growing up, I wanted to believe humanity could become like the humans of the Federation.
The reality is, we are significantly morally inferior to the Ferengi.
The Ferengi became warp capable before they allowed women to wear clothes. I think you're underselling us.
Between climate change and nuclear proliferation, I think extinction is what I'd put my money on.
Yes.
We have way too much hubris about how we're going about life. Acting like we own nature, and we aren't actually a part of the ecosystem. And we have an existential crisis with climate change on our hands, and we're basically doing fuck all about it.
In fact, we are increasing oil production in many places right now. Probably the dumbest thing people will look back on when there's no more oil and climate change is in full swing. Why didn't we try harder to change course when we had a chance?
Because people could make money by not changing course.
(But you knew that...)
Yeah I don't disagree. But people are also pretty adaptable, I think we can survive some pretty apocalyptic stuff. (That doesn't mean we shouldn't do everything we can to stop climate change, I just think it's pretty likely at least two people will survive)
I'm reading a lot of variation about the minimum viable breeding population of humans from around 100 to over 1000, but no one says two.
Yeah inbreeding would be terrible. But anyway, I think it's likely some people could survive an apocalypse.
Humans have almost gone extinct several times in our history. What makes you think we are special? Species go extinct all the time, just not usually by their own hands.
I hope so badly that it's transferred into computers. We need to get there in the next few decades though or I'm gonna miss the boat. :-D
Have you seen the show Upload?
I have not, but I will check it out.
Yeah man immortality in the meta verse sounds rad lmao.
If you don't think it does, you should read a little scifi sometime.
Sci fi is great. Reality is not.
Reality doesn't include the ability to upload ourselves yet though, so I base my enthusiasm on what could be, rather than a cynical assessment of what is. You do you though.
Cheers