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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

haven't we all known this since product launch ?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I think most people, me included, underestimate the scale of the operation. When you hear "company will use private data to do X", you imagine what a reasonable person would do, like random sample a few conversations here and there. In reality they record everything permanently over months and years, far beyond what would be necessary to run the service.

It's kind of crazy how we get this level of surveillance while still having software that will lose your data if you don't hit Save often enough.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's fucked up is if you try to regulate it and make these companies have data retention policies. It creates a giant moat around them where no newcomer can have a chance to compete.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's because you are not enforcing data portability at the same time. Having studied and discussed the GDPR at length within tech circles, I became convinced that data portability is the ultimate right and the key to ensure continuing innovation

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

data portability is the ultimate right and the key to ensure continuing innovation

Interoperability in general is the solution to walled gardens and monopolies that harm competition, consumers, and innovation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

that's fair. i work with data for a living so that probably biases my perspective