I finished watching The Orville, it was a masterpiece from the hands of Seth Macfarlane.
Here, they showed some exchange between admirals and the main ensemble cast quite often, but watching these certain scenes made me compare them to Star Trek admirals. I personally think all admirals in The Orville are great captains who got promoted to the rank of admiral as opposed to Star Trek admirals who are just dumb politicians where our main cast captains keep dealing with their nonsense.
Of course, there are a few reasonable and competent admirals we've seen throughout the franchise, but most of them I've seen reflect real-world politicians that never even had sat on a captain's seat.
There's this one admiral in The Orville third season, spoilers!
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Admiral Thomas Perry. He betrayed The Union to give the Krill and Moclan the weapon that can destroy Kaylon because the Union considered the weapon as a last resort for they deemed it to be a weapon of genocide, they believe the Kaylons, despite being artificial intelligence have the capacity of change. But Thomas Perry doesn't see this and wants to destroy the Kaylon.
We can see here that this is one of a captain's traits that exists within, even after being promoted to admiral. One of the examples in Star Trek is Captain Maxwell, a decorated captain who destroyed Cardassian ships and outposts because he believed the Cardassians were re-arming and re-equipping themselves, having himself go rogue until his arrest.
Admiral Perry here is an example of such a captain who managed to be promoted to admiral. And when he faced the dilemma that we've seen in Star Trek, that was the path he took. That's whats awesome about the admirals in The Orville. They're not politicians, they're former captains and leaders each in their own way.
P.S. I keep referring to him as Michael throughout the 3rd season because he's such an actor in the sitcom "The Good Place"
Shit, Ted Dansen is so good I forgot he was in The Orville.