Technology

59672 readers

2988 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.

Our Rules

Follow the lemmy.world rules.
Only tech related content.
Be excellent to each another!
Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
Politics threads may be removed.
No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots

founded 1 year ago

MODERATORS

[email protected]

438

Authors Are Furious After Finding Their Works on List of Books Used To Train AI (www.themarysue.com)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

146 comments fedilink hide all child comments

Authors using a new tool to search a list of 183,000 books used to train AI are furious to find their works on the list.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Training AI on copyrighted material is infringement and I’ll die on that hill. It’s use of copyrighted material to create a commercial product. Doesn’t get any more clear cut than that.

I know as an artist/musician/photographer I’d rather not put my creations out there at all if it means some corporation is going to be able to steal it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Courts look at how the party claiming fair use is using the copyrighted work, and are more likely to find that nonprofit educational and noncommercial uses are fair.

This does not mean, however, that all nonprofit education and noncommercial uses are fair and all commercial uses are not fair; instead, courts will balance the purpose and character of the use against the other factors below.

Additionally, “transformative” uses are more likely to be considered fair. Transformative uses are those that add something new, with a further purpose or different character, and do not substitute for the original use of the work.

https://www.copyright.gov/fair-use/index.html

You can stand wherever you like on any hill you'd like, but the question of nonprofit use vs commercial use is only one part of determining fair use, and where your stance is going to have serious trouble is the fact that the result of the training is extremely transformed from the training data, with an entirely different purpose and character and cannot even reproduce any of the works used in training in their entirety. And the areas where they can reproduce in part are likely not even the direct result of using the work itself in training, but additional reinforcement from other additional secondary uses and quotations of the reproducible parts of works in question.

And don't worry. Within about a year or so (by the time any legal decision gets finalized or new legislation is passed) no one is going to care about 'stealing' your or anyone else's creations, as training is almost certainly moving towards using primarily synthetic data and curated content creation to balance out edge cases.

Use of preexisting works was a stepping stone hack that acted like jumper cables starting the engine. Now that it's running, there's a rapidly diminishing need for the other engine.

Edit: And you'd have a very hard time convincing me that StableDiffusion using Studio Ghibli movies to train a neural network that can produce new and different images in that style is infringement while Weiden+Kennedy commercially making money off of producing this ad is not.