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[–] [email protected] 108 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you can't outright solve a problem you shouldn't try to improve the situation >:(

[–] AI_toothbrush 18 points 1 year ago (6 children)

How is this improving the situation. Do people only throw away the caps? I think this is just some stupid law so that they can say they tried. I still think soda cans are just a better solution and make it mandatory that companies recycle their own waste.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I still think soda cans are just a better solution

That actually sounds like a good idea to me, or you could make them similar in design to those water-bottles that have the cap meant to stay with the bottle, shown in:

this image (branding removed)

Whereas the existing design is similar to the old pull tabs that were on cans which caused ecological damage when people discarded them on the ground.

I wish they'd instead go after the big companies doing the majority of the damage, but I suppose this's where the cards lay. (For now)

[–] AI_toothbrush 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think its easily solvable you just make it mandatory that companies recycle their own bottles and they WILL find a way to make it cheap.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Did you reply to the wrong comment?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

the old pull tabs

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

The parks in my area have far more bottle caps on the ground than bottles

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Do people only throw away the caps?

Well yes, many throw caps and bottle separately and the people that throw their trash anywhere will certainly not care about the caps.

make it mandatory that companies recycle their own waste.

Lol.

In what country is it mandatory for companies to recycle soda cans ?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Just to get this straight, in Germany if coca cola sells a can of coke to a consumer and that it is somehow returned to them through a deposit scheme or something they are legally bound to recycle entirely that aluminium foil ?

If that's the case that's amazing but in many countries in Europe a lot of effort is done to collect recyclable stuff but that certainly does not mean it will be recycled.

There is a vast difference between something being mandatory to put in the recycling bin and it actually being recycled for real.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

unfortunately yes, i've seen lots of just caps thrown around as litter

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Or just introduce the Pfand system Europe wide

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Pant is great.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

It sucks so much to not be able to throw cans into recycling and be done with it.

Every week or so I carry some stinky bag of beer cans to these machines and I hate it.

Other countries should not be forced to implement this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Soda cans have lots of plastic in them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What? Soda Cans are made of aluminum, aren’t they?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They need a liner on the inside mostly epoxy or polymer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah I thought only paper products needed an inner coating like that. Is there a concern of it oxidizing or something?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Aluminum is poisonous in larger amounts and a lot of can contents are pretty acidic. You could probably line them with non reactive metals like gold, but thst would be very expensive in comparison.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

They have a plastic lining to stop the soda from tasting like metal.

[–] AI_toothbrush 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bummer. I guess glass it is then.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Glass because the added weight ends up being less eco-friendly than plastics during transport. So it's better to only get glass from local distributers. Also the recycling process of glass is fairly eco unfriendly too.

Aluminum cans might be the best we have for now. I have seen paper milk carton style containers come up more often. As well as plant based plastics.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What? Don't be ridiculous. Of course you should still try to improve the situation. That's like saying trucks that get 7MPG are bad for the environment but don't bother making trucks that get 20MPG because it still runs on fossil fuels.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

It was sarcasm