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I like how this comment section highlights why a job fair specifically not for cis men is needed lol
It's so fucking cringe. I work in tech, I see how weirdly women get treated and I see their unusually high turnover rate. Early on I was told "women don't last long here" and it was very true, that woman in particular quit to do freelance work (good for her). Why can't women have a job fair? Men don't fucking need one, NEARLY ALL of the other tech job fairs are dominated by men.
I'm really being sincere, but why would men magically not need a job fair? They can also be unemployed and struggle to get a job. That's not a 2x specific issue.
I guess I'll just copy and paste from my previous comment:
Because men dominate the tech industry. It just doesn't make sense to hold one for men.
Eh... I think it does, but for different reasons. The tech industry has a relatively high rate of unemployment. Job fairs would be good for everyone.
I agree that women have unique issues in tech and a women-only job fair would be a good thing. I just think General-admission job fairs are useful now too.
Eh... I think it does, but for different reasons. The tech industry has a relatively high rate of unemployment. Job fairs would be good for everyone.
I agree that women have unique issues in tech and a women-only job fair would be a good thing. I just think General-admission job fairs are useful now too.
What’s worse is when you see workplaces that want more women for only the idea it will ‘bring up the standard’ like….I think there’s something telling about the culture alone if they need a specific gender to help understand better standards of working. I would hope they are hiring inclusively for more reasons than just ‘our standards are low cuz the men here are poo and we won’t confront them on it. We will leave it to women to mommy manage it for us. Know any women looking for a job?’
Laws.
I agree with you, it's just not the way the laws were written.
Yeah but been could be mature enough to stay away from it. Instead they act like they're being oppressed. All the other job fairs are already dominated by men.
If woman want a job fair they should create one that actually only allows women, but given no one seems to have a definition for women, it might be hard to do.
Way to be exactly the type of person they are referring to.
what type of person who referred to?
Bigoted loser.
be nice.
You don't deserve it.
why not
Federal anti-discrimination laws disallow this. It has nothing to do with the "definition of women".
which law prevents a private female only conference from happening? As far as I know, there are no such laws.
Read The Fucking Article, that's the exact reason they allowed men at the conference in question: federal nondiscrimination laws
I'm saying I don't buy that reason. There are no laws (afaik) that prevent exactly what I described. Federal discrimination laws typically refer to employment or public places, not private events.
This is an employment related event. Anti discrimination laws apply to applicants.
If it was just a networking event, no problem, ban men
I don't believe there are any laws that make that illegal. There are plenty of black only recruiting events, there was one at my college. If you can find me a law that says this is illegal I will bite my tongue, but from what I can tell it applies to employers, not anything close to recruiting events.
I swear to fucking christ
Are you a lawyer? Because the legal team of this event made this decision
I'm not citing case law to you just because you think you know better than a team of actual lawyers. Jesus.
chill... just discussing how i feel about a topic on a discussion forum. not that serious, you're under no obligation to reply.
This statement didn't come from lawyers btw. I suggest you look into non discrimination laws and youll see why i feel the way i do.
good lord, relax. he's obviously saying he thinks they should be permitted to have women only events.
Sure. I agree. But they can't have women only hiring fairs. It's the law. They could be sued.
we heard you the first 12 times, dude.
Clearly not understanding though
we understand. the point is that it's shitty that it's illegal. it shouldn't be illegal to have a women only event.
Oh, you do understand. Sorry, my bad. I totally agree.
I believe that's what the other guy who was arguing with you was trying to say as well.
some of the comments here are downright scary. women can't have a single thing, it seems.
And article makes it clear what is to blame
lol
Yeah, this sucks. It doesn't surprise me, but it sucks. So many manchildren out there who only think about themselves.
Yeah if there’s ever a sign that a group doesn’t need representation is when they brigade someone who does.
The article states they are having a problem with AMAB nonbinary applicants, after initially allowing them to attend.
No it does not. The problem was with men that lied about their gender.
edit: the deleted comment stated that the article claimed they had problems with amab enbies