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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah but can sheep really consent, without a massive power dynamic

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I really don't want to be arguing a pro-bestiality point here and I have no clue how one would go about the act. But I think a sheep would be able to hurt you pretty good if it wasn't okay with what is happening, same as a horse for example.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

You guys need to calm down. Maybe the guy wants to have a steak, but he also wants the meat to be as fresh as possible.. 😅 He is also making sure that the sheap is as relaxed/respected as possible, so he put it on the front seat. Stressless meat I've heard tastes better.. 😅😅😅

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Unnecessarily killing or harming a sentient individual is wrong, full stop

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

under what ethical system?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Holy shit I knew McAfee Antivirus man didn't die in that Spanish prison

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Shhh. You know nothing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Consent requires sentience so no animal can consent regardless of power dynamic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Hence why veganism is a moral obligation to animals. It's indefensible to kill or exploit/harm an animal without their consent (which they can't give), and which clearly isn't in their best interests

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

it makes no sense to discuss consent from non-human animals. do you ask plans for consent before cutting them? or doors for consent before opening them and putting your whole body through them?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

That's a stupid argument, just by having sentience doesn't mean we have any moral obligations to our food sources. There are plenty of incentives to human being's health and society by reducing meat consumption, why would you choose such a weak reason instead?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sheep are sentient. You probably mean sapient.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Looks like the definition has changed in the last decade, then, because it used to exclude children younger than 5.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well it means able to perceive or feel things

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Well at that point we'd have to define perception.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Consent requires sentience

i don't think one has anything to do with the other.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you can't think then you don't make decisions, basically.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

they are unrelated.