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I didn't used to understand foreign involvement in wars, like the whole America-Vietnam shenanigans. But I can see why after watching this Israeli Palestine Conflict since birth.

But now it's like watching two children fighting over who's sandcastles can be built in the sandbox. And what do we do if children can't learn to share? You take away everything and no one is happy.

So is that what this is going to come to? Do adults need to intervene to quell the infants?

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[-] [email protected] 50 points 9 months ago

A country with no involvement in world war 2 had its land taken as reparation for world war 2.

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Palestinian soldiers also fought with the British against the Nazis.

But none of this involvement is making it any more fair that Palestinians had to pay for the Holocaust. If anything, the opposite.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago

Yeah you lose me at stuff like 'controlled the territory'. It was palestinians living there, not British.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

The British empire controlled a lot of regions of the world and they didn’t do it by establishing big population bases everywhere.

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[-] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago

Youre making me hate your side more and more for the complete disregard of uprooting people that were already living there, guilty of nothing. Yes, they were there first, and then were exiled. You wanna get exiled from your own country? No fucking empathy

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[-] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago

Yeah, youre advocating that Palestinians could be uprooted because they were under british control. People not involved in WW2 were uprooted and their homes given to jewish refugees. That happened, thats why palestinians are pissed, and now israel is just perpetuating more of the same. It never should have happened, those refugees shouldve been returned home where they could, taken in by allies, or if they absolutely had to have their own country give them land from germany or any country responsible for exiling their jewish population.

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[-] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago

the state of israel is extremist. and god a lot of people love the state of israel. I havent advocated for anything, I answered OP's question for why people in the middle east are so pissed. Even if only a few people were alive for when it was happening, it's still recent enough that first and second generations are a lot of people. Like imagine you grow up in horrible conditions because your parents were exiled from their home, from their work. And the people that did it are still attacking more of your country to exile more people.

What I advocate for is Israel needs to stop doing what it's been doing. And if you're a sane person in Israel, someone of reasonable means, not a religious fanatic that thinks you have divine purpose to live within specific geography, you move somewhere else, somewhere safer.

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[-] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago

I care about the people

[-] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Are you referring to the British Empire (who was a victor of WW2) or the Ottoman Empire (who no longer existed)?

[-] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Well it was WWI in the first place, and the levant was part of the Ottoman Empire which was part of the central powers and did take part in the war.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago

I know there was zionist migration beforehand, but israel as a state was established after ww2.

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