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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Op is a fucking retard. It was because they had no storage facilities to take it not to keep demand high.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey man, don't need to go that far. The concept and context of his argument are solid. Look at diamonds, for instance. It's done, even if his example wasn't spot on. Maybe. Where I am the dairy farmers are selling their cattle for meat, because the supermarkets have strong armed such low prices, they can't afford to even operate. While the milk on the shelf isn't cheap.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Diamonds are a luxury item that no one needs. Can't say I'm terribly upset about that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Don't milk cows, lactation stops. No milk until the next calf is born. Outside the ethics of bovine milk, if the supply chain has ground to a halt, and food safety regulations mean you can't sell warm, unpasteurised, unfiltered milk at your front gate (Yay, faeces and gravel) then it's going to be tipped because it needs to be in this instance.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The us government famously has a cheese storage facility intended for just this purpose.

Well, not this purpose. It’s intended to allow the government to buy surplus at near market rates to subsidize the dairy industry.

But there’s literally a place to put it already paid for by your tax dollars.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Not only that, but the gov. subsidizes our farms so we have food to eat. We produce and excess so we don't all go hungry.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Have you ever seen a milk dryer?

Cannot turn one of those around in three months, and when it's full, it's full.

Not to mention warehouse storage for the bagged/ binned product and conversion to shelf ready

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You obviously have no clue how milk production actually works 😂😂😂

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because you evidently feel entitled to an opinion on it.

I learned a long time ago to keep my mouth shut if I don't know what I am talking about.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Powdered milk, also called milk powder,[1] dried milk, or dry milk, is a manufactured dairy product made by evaporating milk to dryness. One purpose of drying milk is to preserve it; milk powder has a far longer shelf life than liquid milk and does not need to be refrigerated, due to its low moisture content. Another purpose is to reduce its bulk for the economy of transportation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powdered_milk

What else is there to know?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

You're a bit special