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Soy Joker vs Gigachad Pyle (hexbear.net)

submitted 2 years ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I never thought about it before but Full Metal Jacket is kind of retrograde the way it portrays the guy who blasted his CO as a sobbing incompetent moron. In reality there was a lot of resistance and direct murder of COs by GIs during the Vietnam War, but it wasn't done by antisocial mouth-breathing idiots but principled resistors.

Sir, No Sir is a great documentary about GI anti-war resistance whose thesis is that it was actually the internal resistance to continuing the war at all levels from infantry to intelligence that forced US withdrawal.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I never thought about it before but Full Metal Jacket is kind of retrograde the way it portrays the guy who blasted his CO as a sobbing incompetent moron. In reality there was a lot of resistance and direct murder of COs by GIs during the Vietnam War, but it wasn’t done by antisocial mouth-breathing idiots but principled resistors.

Well, Gomer Pyle is not supposed to be a depiction of a "principled resistor". He's supposed to be a depiction of a guy who is obviously mentally disabled, but got pushed through medical examination anyways due to lowering recruitment standards. As I understand that was also a hot-button issue at the time.

That said, I would personally prefer that you did not speak so frankly on your opinions regarding Mr. Pyle. Comparison with the character is actually one of the ways people where I live used to use to try to get at me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I know he's not supposed to be a depiction of a principled war resistor, but he is supposed to be a depiction of a GI that blew away his commanding officer. I'm just saying it's an ahistorical representation of the type of person who actually did that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I’m just saying it’s an ahistorical representation of the type of person who actually did that.

That's fair enough, and I think I understand what you mean in that context. That's also not really the part of the take that I was objecting to I guess. :shrug-outta-hecks:

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