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Maps and documents recovered from the bodies of Hamas attackers reveal a coordinated plan to target children and take hostages inside an Israeli village near Gaza.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

The documents were found on the bodies of Hamas terrorists by Israeli first responders and shared with NBC News.

Those documents - one, two - are remarkably unspoiled for what they supposedly went through: printed and distributed by a leader, handed over to the terrorists, reviewed (probably multiple times), stuck in a backpack or pocket, brought into an Israeli area, maybe referred to while there, in at least one firefight / battle, recovered from the bodies, passed around by Israeli first responders, then handed over to NBC.

All that, and not a speck of dirt or drop of blood? And the terrorists must have handled them very gently, because aside from one bent-over corner, there isn't a single crease to be seen - not even the corner where the plans were stapled together has been flattened, just gently held open. Remarkably pristine, those Hamas terrorists, even during infiltration, battle, and death.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey, wait a minute... What are you trying to say?? Are you questioning the authenticity of this discovery??

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm complimenting them and their mothers on how well they were raised, to take such good care of their possessions. Even while they're running, fighting, and dying, they really managed to keep those documents in tip-top shape - that takes real dedication, and shows their mothers raised them properly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Hamas never wanted to be a "government", instead they dreamed of being a cabal of museum-grade archivists.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Also obviously everyone takes TOP SECRET DOCUMENTS to the front lines.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

As we all know, bathrooms are the correct place for your top secret government documents

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If the Israelis were faking these documents, why didn't they add some dust and creases?

These look just like a printout I kept in my side pocket all day.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In your everyday activities, are you running, crouching, pressing yourself against the side of a building, maybe lying down? Are you routinely flinging yourself out of the line of fire? It's 80°F in Israel today, they've been running and fighting, probably had to look at the map once or twice and yet there's no sign of sweaty fingers that have handled the documents? I'm sure they stopped in the middle of their infiltration, too, to wash their hands.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

This might've been a guy who got shot shortly after sneaking across the border in the wee hours of the morning. There's no reason to assume this is one of the attackers who spend the day fighting the IDF.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They should've just brought hand sanitizer!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Those damn golfofrinchans

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You seem to be implying you think this is faked because it doesn't comply with how you expect the documents to look. It took you less than a couple hours since this was posted to think this conspiracy theory up. If these documents were faked, don't you think the Israeli intelligence community would also have considered the same issues you raised and properly dirtied them to make sure they had the necessary dirt and blood to meet your specific definition of 'authentic'? The ultimate implication here is that you think you have thunk up a gotcha in a few hours that Israeli Intelligence were incapable of thinking up. That's very arrogant.