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Reddit Migration

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### About Community Tracking and helping #redditmigration to Kbin and the Fediverse. Say hello to the decentralized and open future. To see latest reeddit blackout info, see here: https://reddark.untone.uk/

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Think about things from the point of view of someone who has never used Reddit or the fediverse, but you've heard about them both from recent news articles and want to see what they are about.

Reddit:- You Google Reddit and your first result is Reddit.com. You click the link and are presented with the front page. You from scroll from a few hours and end up signing up and staying.

Lemmy:- You Google Lemmy and your first result is a wiki article for Lemmy Kilmister... Your second result might be join-lemmy.org, which you're smart enough to realise it's probably more likely what the news is about.

You click join-lemmy.org and are presented with a page of information about the fediverse, links to set up a server and pictures of code...

There is very little chance you're going to investigate further.

If we want the fediverse to replace Reddit then either
A) Lemmy needs to improve its initial impression and Search engine optimization
B) We should be promoting a different platform with a better initial first impression.

I'd recommend kbin personally as it gives the same sort of experience as Reddit from the initial interaction.

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[–] [email protected] 140 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also, the Kbin dev expressly stated he isn't ready for a massive migration, and the current influx has caused him no end of stress. We want to keep him around and not drive him insane.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would argue we also don't want to be in a place where we rely on any one individual. Thankfully @ernest seems to understand that as well.

[–] [email protected] 283 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I appreciate the concern, and it seems to me that kbin is no longer just one person ;) Currently, kbin is a team of wonderful people who handle development work, devops, project management, and more. Additionally, Piotr helps me with administering kbin.social. There will be significant changes here soon, things are happening quickly. But to be honest, I wasn't fully prepared for such substantial growth, and it will probably take some time before everything stabilizes. But... this is just the beginning ;) What's important is that the snowball starts rolling, regardless of whether kbin, Lemmy, or Mastodon gains the most users. We all win in this situation.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@ernest

@Fizzee @abff08f4813c @tbird83ii @BedSharkPal

Given that Kbin has more active users in the past month than any lemmy instance, I’m sure it’s been wild for you considering this was a side project.

[–] [email protected] 129 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Yeah, the pace is still crazy, but it's a completely different mental comfort when you're aware that you're not alone ;)

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago

We're all with you!

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

Yup, we are all with you dude!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Java Dev here if there’s anything I can contribute with a couple hours a week!

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

kbin is written in PHP, but if you want to contribute, it's opensource on codeberg.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

r/ProgrammerHumor.. Oh oops, old habit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

hashtags work in the fediverse #ProgrammerHumor

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Kbin is PHP/Symfony, but people are writing tools in various languages, not to mention clients. I haven't looked at the client repositories, but I assume that some, if not all, of the codebases for them are Java.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Reddit really is here

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Let me know if you need some more coffee!

;)

To everyone who may wish to, if you want to support ernest see below link.
https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kbin

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The thing that helps Kbin the most is that it is, by far, the easiest to understand. Googling "Lemmy fediverse" gives a bunch of various links to other Lemmy instances, which are presented in a way as if they are separated from one another. Kbin appears as one site, one location for content aggregation. Although that "goes against the idea" of decentralization, most users are currently looking for their "one home to replace their old one home". The more users flock to one area and learn how it works, the more things will begin to take their proper shape, so to speak.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A feature we'll definitely want to have with kbin in the future is the ability to migrate accounts to other instances. That would mean that even though we're centralizing on kbin.social right now, people could move to other instances and spread the load across the fediverse without losing their history

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm still learning the ins and outs of this place and the others, but part of me thought that was the feature of being federated. User accounts could seamlessly transfer from one instance to another.

Looking further into it, it looks like that feature exists for content, but not so much for accounts.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

You can access content from an account anywhere, but not migrate the account.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I think it exists in Mastodon, it just hasn't been worked on yet for Kbin / lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Love you, Ernest 💕

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Don't become like those overlords. Stay down to Earth with the rest of humanity.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Wishing you the best of luck, hoping Kbin succeeds! It has everything to be a great platform for the long run.