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Australia rejects proposal to recognise Aboriginal people in constitution (www.theguardian.com)
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[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Not to minimize the pain a lot of people are going through right now, but I want to provide some context:

While a lot of people who voted no on this referendum had poor intentions, there was a significant percentage of progressives including indigenous people who voted no based on concerns that this proposal would be an unreasonable compromise, and potentially be an obstacle in the way of establishing a body/system that would have actual power rather than being advisory only.

A lot of the media and politicians worked hard to silence the questions and concerns especially of indigenous activists, including the most progressive party removing an indigenous senator for refusing to endorse the proposed system, it seems clear to me why a lot of people did not trust the proposal.

It remains to be seen what proportion of the no vote came from pro vs anti indigenous rights proponents, and how the population will react to other proposals such as treaty and truth telling, but it's certainly not as clear cut as the media narrative that "most voters don't want indigenous rights", and in my opinion, there is a lot of potential for much more substantial positive change in the near term, based on the efforts of the past few years and decades

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for contributing more context.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

From some more reading, it looks like the no vote very closely correlates with conservative voting regions, so while the progressive no voters presumably had some impact, it looks like the referendum outcome is largely due to anti indigenous sentiment. I'm not sure weather this is more concerning, or the fact that the no campaign pretty much fully controlled the narrative with social and news media misinformation and manipulation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Personally I think the "progressive no" vote was a myth.

The purported argument was that this proposal was unsatisfactory, so reject this one and get a better offer. A nonsensical argument really - accepting this proposal was the gateway to getting a better outcome on every issue to go through parliament in future. This proposal could have paved the way to the body/system with actual power.

The "progressive no" term was coined by this guy from Black People's Union: https://youtu.be/G0kFfqb-63s

He's not really promoting the type of futuristic utopia most people think of when they use the term progressive.

Their list of demands includes a few odd statements:

We also do not acknowledge a treaty/ies as a solution to reconcile the historical and ongoing issues faced by First Nations people. The goal of national and economic liberation will only be achieved once the capitalist and colonial social relations cease to exist in Australia. National liberation will always be an intrinsic part of the revolutionary struggle against capitalism, colonialism and imperialism.

… and some interesting demands:

  • The abolition of private property.
  • The return of all crown land and waters and all land and waters used as a primary resource to the custodianship of their rightful Indigenous owners.
  • The redirecting of taxes related to land and water usage and ownership paid by non-Indigenous homeowners to their relevant Indigenous Nation.

Old mate continuously refers to the voice as tokenistic, “there’s other advisory bodies” and “this one doesn’t even have any power” et cetera. I’m not aware of any other advisory bodies that were backed by the constitution with a clear mandate from the Australian people. Imagine a government ignoring the voice to parliament when the Australian populace has supported them.

This guy’s whole argument is “no compromise”. He wanted the referendum rejected, to galvanise first nations people to demand more. That’s not how modern democracy works in Australia.

It’s also very frustrating that he happily perpetuates the misunderstanding that he somehow speaks for First Nations people generally. That’s pretty fucked IMO. Honestly, I think this guy has a lot to answer for - I genuinely feel that he has done First Nations Peoples a disservice.