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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Or just don't agree, and get a house that's not part of an HOA. With individual houses at least, you can realistically opt out of a system where the 51% of Karens accept management company bribes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wrong. Most areas with an HOA require membership to purchase the home.

Oh, look at that, most good areas have HOAs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

You didn't understand what they said... You're free to purchase a house somewhere where there's no HOA if you disagree with HOAs and don't want to get involved in them. That's how you have the freedom to opt out.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I understand their point, it's just a bad one. So much of where we live depends on job, educational, financial, and familial circumstances that it's just outright ludicrous to pretend HOAs are the only factor to consider for a home purchase. Or even an important one.

Especially when so much of what makes them frustrating to deal with is created by bad HOA members, not even necessarily the contract itself. You will not know it's a problem until it becomes one, in all likelihood.

Yes, you are technically free to not buy into a HOA neighborhood, like you're also free to deliberately send your kid to a shitty school as you live in a van.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Three quarters of US citizens live somewhere without an HOA, doesn't seem so hard not to have to deal with one and if you do, as I already mentioned, just get involved and improve things and if that doesn't fix it then get involved at a higher level. HOAs are a US issue only, get them regulated.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the US these homes are increasingly rare. Pretty much any neighborhood built since the 70s comes with HOA bullshit attached

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

74% of the housing market doesn't have an HOA in the USA, worst case put pressure on the higher level of government to get them regulated, it's a US issue, you don't see that anywhere else.