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[–] [email protected] 37 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It isn't open source, the licence violates point six of the open source definition

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

And violates point 1 The license shall not restrict any party from selling or giving away the software as a component of an aggregate software distribution containing programs from several different sources. .... commercial distribution is forbidden in the license.

And violates point 3 The license must allow modifications and derived works, and must allow them to be distributed under the same terms as the license of the original software.

and violates point 4 Integrity of The Author’s Source Code no patch files are explicitly allowed_

and point 6 - you already covered

the futo license in question: https://gitlab.futo.org/videostreaming/grayjay/-/raw/master/LICENSE?ref_type=heads

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This would definitely fall under the "source-available" category.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's definitely FOSS. (Fake Open Source Software)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The source is available on their gitlab instance, so whether it not it conforms to some specific definition of open source, the source code is readily available for anyone to view and modify.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

modify

Nope, the license forbids that.

This is source available

[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Do you have a quote from the license to prove that? Louis Rossman himself said we're free to grab the code and edit it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

The quote: "Subject to the terms of this license, we grant you a non-transferable, non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free license to access and use the code solely for the purposes of review, compilation and non-commercial distribution."

Source: Section 2.1 of https://gitlab.futo.org/videostreaming/grayjay/-/raw/master/LICENSE?ref_type=heads

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That is one definition of open source

I agree that it is great to meet all these criteria, but especially restricting commercial use is a pretty reasonable thing to do

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I would say that Open Source, by any definition of the word, does have the assumption that you are allowed to modify and publish what you create at least in some form or another, even if it would be under a non-commercial clause or a license with other requirements.

When the licence explicitly says all you are allowed to do is access the code "solely for the purposes of review, compilation and non-commercial distribution", that's not open source.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

When the licence explicitly says all you are allowed to do is access the code "solely for the purposes of review, compilation and non-commercial distribution", that's not open source.

I'd say that is open source. But not free and open source

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

OSI's definition is the oldest and original definition. It's decades old at this point.

It's source available, nothing more.