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youtube getting more aggressive.. i've got firefox and ublock but this shit is still coming up

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[–] stoy 316 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Get Firefox, install uBlock Origin, clear the filter cache, and reload the filter cache.

Worked for me and my dad

It is time to stop the Chrome plauge.

[–] [email protected] 161 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's currently working, but every few days youtube will tweak something, and sometime later (minutes to hours) there will be an ublock update for it.

Sometimes you have to wait a little longer, but this is the arms race.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I find it funny that a company as big as Google is loosing to little ol uBlock

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's often far easier to attack than defend.

Google has to find and block every way, ublock just has to make a new way to bypass the blocks.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Classic mantra of cybersecurity. "We've up be right every time, they've to be right only once."

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They're working on a final solution to the ad blocker problem. If they're successful in pushing their Web Environment Integrity API, there's nothing Firefox or ublock will be able to do.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

EU as the final boss battle

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What about piped like solutions hostux, invidious etc? How do they work? Is it through API? Can Google block it like reddit did theirs? Also if google is so concerned about ad blockers why do they allow those extensions in their Chrome store? I thinks its going to get really tough to get Youtube for free without ads. Eventually Youtube might become something like Netflix or something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Piped/invidious work by scrapping the video chunks directly from google and proxying them through volunteer servers. They will stop working as soon as google gets around to locking down the APIs that they are abusing, or blocks their server IPs.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I find it funny

I'm not having any fun. How dare they! With all the evil virus attacks nowadays and most of them starting through online ads, using an adblocker is a matter of security. And it is my decision, not theirs. None of their business.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Especially funny since blocking ublock is illegal in the EU

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I might read the article later, but your thesis is right.

This isn't a arms race, it's also convenience race.

Is it more convenient for me to turn off ublock, or go through ublocks menus and update its filters? Do I dislike ads that much? Maybe I do, maybe I don't. But some people will turn off their adblock of choice, even if it technically still works if you update it. Their conversion rate of viewer to ad consumer will (probably) go up.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's worth the read. I really only posted it because you have to respect the technical prowess involved. Also it's kind of funny.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

yep.. i did. they keep coming up, somehow. very annoying.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

I switched over to piped.video and no ads. Just moved my subscriptions over. Not sure how long it will last but so far it's good

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If that doesn't work, get the youtube enhancer extension. Turn off it's built in adblock. You'll have a bunch of buttons on the bottom of the video, one of which is remove ads, which becomes skip ads when an ad plays. You will still get ads, but you'll be able to instantly skip them all without setting off their adblock detector. (Ps, to get the bar in fullscreen, set it to bottom of window)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Huh I might try some ytenhancer only sessions to keep a eye on how bad eds have been getting without having to waste my time

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yet, I've not gotten any of these messages on Chrome + uBlock Origin so far.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are probably hitting people in waves, in an effort to make sure this isn't a surge, then a massive protest like the Unity situation.

But once google realizes they'll have to burn serious money and make their product worse on the global stage to fix the problem, they'll quit just like Microsoft, AOL, and Netscape.

But I think this campaign is just there to loosen the people who installed an ad-block, but have no idea what an ad-block is.

Which will be different from the people who know about "alternate methods," and will easily slip the google net unnoticed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It's more like field testing the change than managing backlash. They go somewhat hand-in-hand, but the intention Google has is mainly to reduce false positives.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I feel like all of these suggestions will have short lifespans.

There is no good replacement for YouTube currently, but ultimately a long term solution means replacing the service.

A long(er) term solution than little hacks with FF and ublock are things like piped.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That didn't work for me. Seems theyre still detecting it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Updating uBlock and filters has a bigger Impact than choice of browser. You could be situated in one of the data clusters that implement new detection methods first, so the filter lists are not updated yet when they hit you with a changed detection script.

Also, if you use Enhancer for YT, disable the built-in ad blocking there. That feature triggers the pop-up as well.